Re: There are lots of PDF service manuals available at...

From: Ed Price (edprice_at_cox.net)
Date: 08/03/04 

Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:53:59 -0700

"Thomas P. Gootee" <tomg@fullnet.com> wrote in message
news:11915d6.0408020654.66e49acd@posting.google.com...
> "Ed Price" <edprice@cox.net> wrote in message
news:<NjkPc.28758$mg6.15754@fed1read02>...
> > "Thomas P. Gootee" <tomg@fullnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:11915d6.0408011202.5096cf5b@posting.google.com...
> > > Service Manuals, in PDF format:
> > >
> > > There are lots of SERVICE MANUALS, for electronic test equipment, and
> > > comms radios, etc etc, in PDF format, available at:
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > >
> <unsnipped:>

SNIPPED AGAIN

> > > http://www.

> > > There are hundreds of FULL SERVICE MANUALS
> >
> >
> > At $5 to $15 each, right Tom?
> >
> > A frugal person might try this first:
> >
> > https://www.logsa.army.mil/etms/find_etm.cfm
> >
> > or
> >
> > http://bama.sbc.edu/
> >
> >
> > Ed
> > WB6WSN
>
> ---------------------
>
> Ed,
>
> Actually, they range from $3 to $38, usually with shipping and
> handling additional (although the higher-priced manuals are mostly the
> ones that I sell for someone else, who works hard to create them).
>
> Sure! LOGSA and BAMA are well known by those in the sci.electronics
> groups, although I doubt that many others can mine LOGSA as thoroughly
> as I have. I spent a huge amount of time and effort, and money,

Umm how did you spend money at LOGSA or BAMA?

> developing and applying technicques for finding obscure manuals there,
> and identifying the commercial model designations of the equipment
> that they cover.
>
> You needn't worry, though, Ed. Your "frugal types" are usually
> hobbyists or students. For them, I have often just GIVEN away the
> URLs for manuals (including many of the "unfindable" ones that I
> worked so hard for), not to mention at least many hundreds of hours of
> free help, advice, and technical consulting. [Of course,
> unfortunately, I'll probably have to suspend those policies, for a
> while, now that I've had to state them publicly.]

So being a nice guy is now on indefinite hold? And just when I had written
your address on my wall. Darn!

> Nevertheless, I still deeply resent the "socialist types" who seem to
> think that everything should be "free", or at cost. If that were the
> case, I couldn't BE here, and wouldn't HAVE the MEANS to provide the
> "newbie help" and the hobbyist/student deals, etc. (Moral: "Be careful
> what you wish for. You just might get it.")
>
> Thanks for the reply.

Sorry, but I snipped the balance of your long-winded, multi-market ad once
you started topics from astronomy to vegetables.
You sure do like to advertise!

I don't think it's "socialist" to point out that USA citizens have already
paid for all those LOGSA manuals, and that the information ought to be
freely available to them what has already paid the bill. It's certainly
capitalistic to carve out a market niche, packaging and selling what is
already publicly available. We assume your customers are paying for
convenience (yes, the LOGSA site is rather, uhh, facelessly bureaucratic
<g>).

OTOH, don't cry when someone points out that the air is free, and tells
people how to breathe deeply on their own.

BAMA's quite a different thing. The information, and the venue, are all
provided as gifts. Assuming that a newbie only has to acquire the talent to
use FTP, there's not much of a barrier to getting the help yourself. I have
a hard time accepting anyone repackaging those gifts as a saleable product.

Ed
wb6wsn
"nothing for sale today"