Re: Report this spam to: groups-abuse@google.com

Simon Scott wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Simon Scott wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

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Thanks, but Im aware of my own whois info. What did this prove?

Nicely sidestepped by the way. Seemed like a desperate act of
intimidation, but it failed hopelessly.

Intimidation? Are you really that damn paranoid? It was simply to
show that I knew how to read and interpret a message header.

Im fully aware of usenet headers and the whois database, thanks all the
same. Perhaps I was thrown by its complete irrelevance to the subject at
hand.



No, you are the one twisting things. I stated that they had to have
a Google account but you've ignored it several times and repeated your
BS.

I dont think youre capable of understanding. I dont *care* that the guy
posted from google. It is completely fucking irrelevant.

lets recap (and I paraphrase):

me: *** off ***
you: report the OP to google
me: what will that achieve?
you: they will close the account, dumb ass.

Again, it doesnt matter if they close the account. It is a case of closing
the barn door after the horse has bolted.

Lets put it another way:

1) google groups accounts are easy to get, in any number
2) pulling a google groups account will result in it quickly being replaced
by another
3) The damage done by spam is limited to the bandwidth and screen realestate
waste by downloading the header (since noone actually clicks on the crap
anyway)
4) Closing the account doesnt reduce (3), nor does it reduce the amount of
spam
5) Cancelling the spam doesnt reduce (3), as by the time they get around to
it everyone has downloaded the header anyway, and a fair number of usenet
servers dont honour cancellations anyway.

Capiche? You are completely pissing in the wind if you think reporting
anything to google does anything except waste more of your time.




So what is your answer to spam? Do like the guy in Russia and kill
the spammer?


It won't, with your defeatist attitude.

Not defeatist - realistic. Since I actually understand the architecture of
usenet, I know that it is impossible to stamp out, or even measurably
reduce, the amount of spam on usenet.


You still have your troubles with the English language, 190 IQ boy.

Wow, a typo. Good call. How are those straws you are grasping by the way?


No, not one "Typo". Your use of the English language throughout the
thread is horrid. You would have never graduated from High School where
I grew up.



My qualifications? Broadcast engineer in radio & television,
engineering in CATV system design, built headends, and I worked at
L3-Com/Microdyne as an engineering tech in RF, Digital, Embedded
controllers, and any other dirty engineering job that came up because I
asked for the hardest jobs.

OK, so you are completely unqualified in anything relevant to the topic at
hand then.


What would qualify anyone about spammers? A head shrinker? Maybe a
bunch of goons to kick the spammer's front door down and smash all of
their computers? If Google gets fed up with all the spam reports they
make it harder to post, or set a limit of posts per IP address, per
day. They won't do anything until it becomes a real thorn in their
side.


I had my fill of BS of computer engineering types while at Microdyne.

Youd think you mightve picked up some basic networking theory while there.



I was already installing Novel networks before I went to work at
Microdyne. As a matter of fact, I still have a 100 user Novel license
disk in my files. I worked with older networking that used RS-232. It
was a joke, but it almost worked. I'm glad that i wasn't the one who
set it up. It was a different division of Microdyne that sold
networking hardware and Novel bundles. Yes, I've spent time studying
networking from the Arcnet days, to the current Ethernet layers. I had
a number of problems with the corporate and engineering networks,
because the IT dept. couldn't understand our needs, ROM images were
stored on the servers, but their constant tinkering left us without
access too often. They also tried to tell us that we only needed one IP
address to program and test multiple $80,000 telemetry systems that used
Ethernet for programing and remote control.


BTW, my next networking project is an Ethernet controlled gate
controller and closer for my driveway. I am designing and building the
boards, writing the code and welding up the framework for the pair of 42
volt electric jacks.



Tell, me computer know it all: What is the data bandwidth available
on the uplink to the ISS, and how does the data get there? What else is
the equipment used for?

Who cares? Relevance?


Relevance? You want to know about my networking abilities, yet my
having build the one permanent and unique, out of this world network
interface its not relevant?


First, you ask about networking theory, then you tell me it isn't
relevant. Make up your mind.



Do you ever write in machine language? Not assembler, but true
machine code? I used to for the 6502 and 6510 processors. I wrote a

Heh. As it happens one of my hobbies is 6502 assembler (I like the way you
say 6502 AND 6510, when the 6510 is little more than a 6502 with ports
hardwired into locations $00 and $01, and is simply the minor 6502
derivative used in the commodore 64). Machine code? Sure, if you like,
although why bother when ca65 etc are available? If you like I could
convert the hexidecimal opcodes into binary in my head and enter it in on a
set of switches?

6502 (and 6510! :)), 6800, z80, 68000, 8086...... Which would you like? Im
particular adept at 6510 (!) and the c64. In fact my left arm is resting on
a complete C128 setup on the desk next to me, and the machine Im on (a
linux box) has vice and ca65 installed on it, and one of my servers has
subversion running with my 6502 source.........


I have a couple working 128D computers, about a half dozen C-128s and
a pile of 4023 printers and IEEE-488 floppy drives and other parts for
the early PET series. I repaired hundreds of commodore computers them
in the '80s and '90s.

Have you replaced the 4416 16K*4 video RAM in a 128 with the 4464
64K*4 RAM? You can either use it to store multiple screens, or access
it as more memory. Also, did you know that the 128D uses a different
Video chip than the 128? I installed a 3.5 inch drive in one of the
128D computers. I was designing a modification to the circuit board to
eliminate the card from the 1581 drive. The disassembler that I wrote
was for the 1581 drive. It not only took the code apart, it wrote the
files to the drive it was running on. There is still dead code in the
1581 ROM from early Commodore disk drives.


I worked with the 68340 processor in the Microdyne 700 and 1620/1670
series, as well as in a antenna controller that used the same custom
embedded controller board. It was a pain in the ass because engineering
insisted on using battery backed NVRAM instead of CAPSTORE RAM. I got
that changed and they were a lot more stable.


And again, how is this relevant to the topic?

disassembler for the DOS on early personal computers to modify the code,
along with a lot of other software. I've been writing code for 23

23 years? oh man, makes my 22 seem paltry (consider than Im 32 years old).


So? I'm 53. What difference does it make? My point is that a lot
of people write code, some for longer than others. I started in self
defense and found that I enjoyed it.



Oh, youre a sad old man with nothing better to do. Why am I bothering to
argue with you? What you lack in 'clue' you make up for in empty days and
infinite time to ramble. You win.


My days are far from empty. I just can't schedule the times that I'm
available to work because of a lot of medical problems. I am busy at
one project or another all of my waking hours. I never planned to
retire, but I have been forced to slow down by needing a cane and not
being able to stand for very long. It hasn't done anything to my mind,
but I am losing my eyesight. In fact, I am looking into getting a grant
to set up a repair business for electric power chairs and other
electronic aids for the disabled. BTW, I am fixing a damaged one that
was given to me and it will have a wireless networked computer built in
when I'm done.


Next time dont call someone a dumbass unless its your own president.


Yawn.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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