Re: Verbatim CD-R's are junk , Beware
From: Jerry G. (jerryg50_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 03/04/05
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:46:49 -0500
I am curious to know, with the brand that you had a problem with, did you
try burning the disks at a slower burn to see if they were still not working
right. I found that the slower I burn these, the more reliable they are,
especially in standard home entertainment players. Computer CD drives are
less critical to play disks that were burned in other drives.
I myself have been using Verbatim disks for years. I like them more than
most of the others that I have tried. I like to burn all my disks at slow
speed. I found that when ripping most disks at 52X, I have had more
problems. I will generally use about 4X or 8X at the minimum, and sometimes
I will burn them at about 12X to 16X.
As for upgrading the firmware in your burner, I would not do it, unless
there is a need for it. I found that if something like that is working well,
and did not show any problems, it is best to leave it alone.
Sometimes they come up with upgrades to firmware in these devices, because
something new comes out where there is a problem. If you never start using
whatever is new that is of concern, you will probably never have the problem
to begin with.
A number of years ago when DVD writers first came out, a client of mine
decided for some reason that his new DVD writer needed an upgrade, because
he read some thing on some newsgroup somewhere. He then logs on to that
manufacture's site for his drive. He finds the new upgrade, downloads it,
and then installs it. After, his drive was not working as well for some
reason. It was making a lot of coasters. He tried to find a way to flash it
back, but he could not. This was in the days when DVD burners were many
hundreds of dollars for a basic one. He ended up having to replace the drive
to fix the fault. The new one worked out very well.
-- Jerry G. ===== <vangard@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:1109949728.005496.284530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... Neil wrote: > Hello > > For anyone who has burned CD's for Music, or Data, I've found VERBATIM > CD'S are the worst. That's strange. I have been using them for years CDs and DVDs and have never had a problem with even one. As a matter of fact they are my choice brand. > I thought I had a problem with my CD-RW Drive, so I > cleaned the optical laser with a cleaning CD, You might as well sacrifice a goat or wave turkey feathers over it. I checked with my PC users group and nobody has ever had any success with one of these. > It appears that the stamped out( bright silver > surface type) CD's from the Software Companies work the best. That's because these program CDs are not burned on a Drive like you find in a PC. They are made by pressing the film against a glass master before bonding the different layers together. This is the only way to make thousands of copies at a reasonalble cost and they are much more accurate. I one visited a place where they made video disk and the machine they made the glass master on was mounted on a block of concrete 20' square separate from the building and it's foundation to prevent vibration. Compare the surface of one you burned to a program disk. You can see where your drive stopped burning. Remember it burns from the hole outward. > These VERBATIM CD-R's, > the surface refectivity is very low, so the laser takes longer for it > to read the CD. I hope you were not using a Mk-1 eyeball to measure this reflectivity unless you can see infa-red. > I'm thinking of dumping these CD-R's and > buying some others to replace them. Don't dump them. Take them back to the place you bought them. I needed a large quantity of DVD's to make copies of family reunion movies I made back in the 1950's for all the relatives. I bought a stack of 50 of a brand I had never heard of from MicroCenter that was on sale. When I tried the first 4 DVD's three of them gave errors during the burning process. This was the only brand I ever had a problem with so I took them back to MicroCenter and got a refund after filling out a form. I bought a stack of Verbatims and made my DVD's. A few weeks later I received a letter from the MicroCenter Vice President of International Product Sourcing Group. It contained a letter apologizing for my trouble and 2 DVDs they wanted me to try. They wanted me to see if there was an update for the Eprom and firmware of my burner and install it before trying the new DVD's. I checked the support site for my drive and sure enough there was an update. There was also a forum with several complaints about the new update turning their drive into a vegatable. I downloaded the new code but decided not to install it until the problem is resolved. I then tried to burn one of the new DVDs they sent me and it got a "Session Fixation Error while writing lead out". The DVD would play all the way to the end but did not return to the main menu. Like you I have only had a problem with one brand. Van
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