Re: Hydrogen economy will never exist

From: william mook (william.mook_at_mokindustries.com)
Date: 07/16/04 

Date: 16 Jul 2004 09:21:59 -0700

"G. R. L. Cowan" <gcowan@eagle.ca> wrote in message news:<40F5C769.17876D0F@eagle.ca>...
> Baby Peanut wrote:
> >
> > e7 <see_website_for_email@www.ecu.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<QaAEc.3363$vC4.3079@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>...
> > > Sorry guys,
> > >
> > > Hydrogen economy will NEVER come into existence I'm just beginning
> > > to realize.
> > >
> > > Our economies are all based on high energy hydrocarbon economy.
> > > It doesn't work with low energy hydrocarbons like bio fuels.
> > >
> > > The hydrogen economy only addresses the fuel aspect of vehicles,
> > > ignoring the remainder such as all the chemicals that we now
> > > use to create materials for modern existence from paints to
> > > pharmaceuticals which is all based on high energy hydrocarbons.
> > >
> > > Thus high energy hydrocarbons are what we need to sustain the
> > > economy. Hydrogen economy is a pipe dream that can never happen
> > > under such a scheme because the energy for the hydrogen economy
> > > must come from somewhere - and that can only be from high energy
> > > hydrocarbons. I don't see where the cycle gets broken.
> > >
> > > Some further reading...
> > > http://www.ecu.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/new/methylhydrate.htm
> > >
> > > J
> >
> > The point behind hydrogen cars is to make them "energy source
> > agnostic".
> >
> > Gasoline can only come from petroleum. Hydrogen can come from
> > electricity which might have been from oil, coal, nuclear, wind,
> > solar, etc.
>
> And then you can combine it with atmospherically extracted CO2
> yielding methanol ...and zeolite-polymerize the methanol ...
> and guess what.

Gasoline

>
> Today's cars can therefore also be energy source agnostic.
>

Graham is absolutely right - provided the entire process of making
hydrogen and using it in this way to produce synthetic gasoline costs
less then extracting crude oil and processing it to gasoline - plus
the discovery risk costs for extracted crude.

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