Re: Meyer Circuit Experiment

From: Dan Bloomquist (EXTRApublic20_at_lakeweb.com)
Date: 08/14/04


Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:44:14 GMT


Average_Joe wrote:
> In article <411D850B.D6B58792@tinaja.com>, Don Lancaster wrote:
>
>>There is no comparison whatsoever.
>>No means of producing hydrogen is known that is even remotely cost
>>effective compared to reformation of methane. See
>>http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf
>
>
> True, I'll 100% agree. Producing hydrogen at this time is not very
> effecient. I've seen generators using methane refactoring and I'm not
> opposed to it, simply because it'll get us over the bridge.
>
> Thing is, if you had a bunch of cars running on methane, if there
> is a shortage of the stuff, then what? We're back where we started.
>
> This is where I draw the comparison to postscript, if the methane
> is refactored to hydrogen and some how used to power automobiles we
> would be independant of methane as the source of fuel. Once another form
> of energy is found, it could potentially be used without changing all
> the cars, gas stations, etc..

It doesn't do a lot of good to put the cart before the horse. 'Once
another form of energy is found', isn't realistic.

BTW, if you use methane directly as a fuel with SOFCs you get some four
times the mileage as you would with the hydrogen vector. And, at a much
reduced cost.

>
> Jamie

Best, Dan.

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