Re: Meyer Circuit Experiment

From: Don Kelly (dhky_at_peeshaw.ca)
Date: 08/16/04 

Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 03:28:34 GMT

"Average_Joe" <joe@geniegate.com> wrote in message
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> In article <411D850B.D6B58792@tinaja.com>, Don Lancaster wrote:
> > There is no comparison whatsoever.
> > No means of producing hydrogen is known that is even remotely cost
> > effective compared to reformation of methane. See
> > http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf
>
> True, I'll 100% agree. Producing hydrogen at this time is not very
> effecient. I've seen generators using methane refactoring and I'm not
> opposed to it, simply because it'll get us over the bridge.
>
> Thing is, if you had a bunch of cars running on methane, if there
> is a shortage of the stuff, then what? We're back where we started.
>
> This is where I draw the comparison to postscript, if the methane
> is refactored to hydrogen and some how used to power automobiles we
> would be independant of methane as the source of fuel. Once another form
> of energy is found, it could potentially be used without changing all
> the cars, gas stations, etc.. 

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Oops-does this make sense? methane to hydrogen somehow resulting in
independence from methane? Other ways to produce hydrogen-
yes-definitely-and this is what I think you are implying- and if all cars
etc were using hydrogen- well and good. The conversion to a hydrogen to
replace fuel for transportation depends on a hell of a lot of things- one
being a good and efficient way to get the hydrogen in the first place. The
objective is to use all available sources in the most economical and
environmentally sound(there is an economic factor to this). Conversion from
some other source / fuel to electricity and then to hydrogen may not
actually fit this requirement.
The following is ignored. Hint- grow trees- the burn them- a fairly well
established process.
-- 
Don Kelly
dhky@peeshaw.ca
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>
> I've actually pictured a cruder form of your solar to liquid hydrocarbon
> idea taking place in the area of biotech. After all, pretty much all
> forms of energy are actually "energy carriers" with the origin being
> solar. Would be neat if one could tap a hydrogen tree for hydrogen
> syrup. :-) (Well, maybe not a tree, but it's the same general idea,
> figure out how to "grow solar panels" to reduce the cost of them. Since
> plants are "solar powered" it seems logical to me)
>
> Jamie
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