Re: SHEC Labs

From: Rob Eldred (nsmontassoc_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 08/31/04 

Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 01:54:33 GMT

"Jed Checketts" <jedcheck@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e98177f2.0408301513.17f4badd@posting.google.com...

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> I spoke with Ray from SHEC just a few days ago. He said that they
> were able to split water into Hydrogen and Oxygen with only 400 C.
> (He claimed that 14% of the steam was converted into Hydrogen and
> Oxygen). I find this INCREDIBLY amazing and believe that if it is
> true it could revolutionize energy production as we know it today.
> Billions of dollars of steam turbine/generators would become obsolete
> overnight.
>
> There are 2 things that are amazing to me. First of all, I believe
> that they claimed that the cost was $85 per installed square meter,
> which would make the payback only about 2 years at $.09 per KWH
> according to my back of the envelope calculations.
>
> Especially if the sunlight energy striking each square meter of
> mirrored surface area is converted into hydrogen energy at an
> efficiency of more than 30%.
>
> Second, if it is actually true that water can be converted into
> hydrogen and oxygen using heat energy alone at a temp of only 400 C,
> then many many sources of heat energy could be used to make this a
> reality.
Cut.....
> Jed Checketts
> Searles Lake, CA
> 760-372-4468

I'm just not that gullible. The above post stated $100 per square foot, you
say $85 per square meter, over 10 times cheaper. Which is it? Now, you and I
both know you can't even lay concrete for $85 per square meter much less
install a complicated, technical mechanism. The 30% number is troubling as
well. But, at 30%, using an average daily insolation value of 5KWH, I get
547KWH per year per sq. meter. This is an average power level of 63watts per
square meter! How long and at what cost would it take to produce one Kg of
H2, the approximate energy of one gallon of gasoline, worth a couple of
bucks? Please explain how this pencils out.
Bob

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