Re: Viable hydrogen vehicle by 2010

From: K. Jones (shadetree1999_at_hotmailNODAMNSPAM.com)
Date: 09/25/04 

Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 17:31:43 -0400

"Tkalbfus1" <tkalbfus1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The problem with switching energy sources is that hydrogen cannot
> compete with gasoline, since there is no current profit from the
manufacture of
> hydrogen for cars, there is no incentive to make the extraction of
hydrogen gas
> less expensive

"extraction of hydrogen gas" ??

You're just not getting it.

Making hydrogen for use as a fuel, is a waste of resources in virtually all
applications.

You use more fuel in making it, then you could ever recover.
Much more efficient, ergo less fuels required, to use them directly.
Converting fuel to hydrogen from is an un-necessary, wasteful step.

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> Government can come to the rescue with an industrial policy that makes
gasoline
> gradually more expensive and makes hydrogen less so.

What exactly would you do with this hydrogen once you've got it?
Why would you do this?

> Part of the hydrogen
> subsidy can come from a gas tax, but the majority must come directly from
the
> taxpayer

I friggin hope not!

> because private industry will not deliberately lose money they way the
> government must to make this happen.

Bingo, it's a money, (and energy) loser, no matter who does it.

> the cost will slow growth for a time, but
> then the economy will become more efficient in other areas to compensate.
One
> way it will compensate would be by producing more power plants. A hydrogen
> economy would have a greater electrical demand than now, so the power
companies
> will build more power plants to meet the demand.

I'm not sure I even understand this "logic", but you want to create lots
more pollution, and
burn lots more fuel, to make hydrogen, to do *what*?

>If there are enough power
> plants, then the price of electricity will go down

Lol. Who is building these powerplants, and *why* are they in the business
of building/operating them?

>and this will reduce the
> cost of hydrogen.

So you want to make hydrogen by electrolysis? Why not use the electricity
directly, instead?

>One result of the hydrogen economy is that untimately your
> electrical utilitiy bills will drop as the power companies will scramble
to
> generate electricity more efficiently to meet demand.

I've never seen bills drop as power companies "scramble to generate
electricity".
The higher the demand, the higher the price.

K. Jones

>
> Tom

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