Re: "Sharpley Higher Prices"

From: Gunner (gunnerNOSPAM_at_lightspeed.net)
Date: 10/12/04 

Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 03:11:15 GMT

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:34:28 GMT, "Fred B. McGalliard"
<frederick.b.mcgalliard@boeing.com> wrote:

>
>"Gunner" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:lualm01uru2su1gpo44lil4ibqmgkcnamc@4ax.com...
>...
>> Historically, the liberals WERE moderate. No longer. Not for the past
>> 20+ yrs, and growing increasingly leftist, radical and strident.
>
>As you must know Gunner, from my view, your opinion in this area is being
>shaped by a relentless campaign of disinformation and propaganda that has
>been used to drag the right further and further beyond limits I would accept
>as conservative. From where I sit, it appears that the left has been
>drifting right gradually under this radical and strident attack from the far
>right. We don't have a left any more, we have (except for a few wild hare
>groups), a center and a radical far right. A bit unbalanced in my opinion.

Which goes to show that you became accustomed to just how far left the
Left really went. Recall the words of that famous Democrat Ronald
Reagan, when asked why he became a Republican...

"I didnt leave the Democratic Party, it left me"

What you are seeing is no more and no less a returning to traditional
Democrat positioning from its Far Left swing. It will take some time
for it to return to its traditional position. As will the Right,
because it too swung to the Left over the past 30 years.

Keep in mind that JFK was a Moderate Democrat. By todays standard, he
was a centrist Republican.
>
>> All your trite words about why you are not voting for a Republican is
>> so much dreck. Shrug.
>
>Shame on you Gunner. My opinions are my own, and just as valuable as I am.
>Just because I do not hold the "right" views does not mean that my views are
>less valuable or less worthy. Why can't you just say you disagree? When did
>it become acceptable, normal, to consider insulting someone's views a
>necessary and sufficient response? My personal theory today is that this is
>a direct result of the training we have all been receiving from the
>republican talk radio and other propaganda outlets. These sources have been
>replacing discussion and argument with party politics, jingoes, insults,
>etc., to the point where everyone of all parties considers a scorched earth
>attack on a fellow countryman to be a reasoned debate. I see a moral failing
>that you do not see. The failing itself, if I see it right, is very much not
>dreck.
>

Shame on you Fred. My opinions are my own and just as valuable as I
am. And Im not afraid to speak them, nor do I flip flop. I hold the
same values that I did when I first voted for Nixon.

Your "theory", like your opinions is dreck and is the result of a
serious failure on your part to consider the actual details of the
matters in question and your dependance on propaganda, The Democrat
Party Line and immersion in that Left Wing Extremism that your party
clasped to its bosom for so many years. I see a serious inablility on
your part to use reason, rational and your own brain to weigh your
outlook and world view.

And you are living on that old river the Left so loves to build their
dacas on..De Nile.

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends
of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

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