Re: Quasiturbine - Article in GizMag

From: Eunometic (eunometic_at_yahoo.com.au)
Date: 12/03/04


Date: 2 Dec 2004 22:19:16 -0800

bw@barrk.net (BlackWater) wrote in message news:<41adf3e7.9531926@news.east.earthlink.net>...
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:02:32 -0500, "Saint-Hilaire"
> <saint-hilaire@promci.qc.ca> wrote:
>
> >Bonjour,
> >Voici un article de synthèse sur la technologie
> >publié dans GizMag www.gizmag.com :
> >
> >November 27, 2004 -
> >Quasiturbine tech promises engine paradigm shift
> >
> >A white paper outlining a revolutionary
> >new approach to engine design has been released
> >at the Global Powertrain Conference (GPC)
> >in Dearborn, Michigan, USA.
> >Quasiturbine technology uses photo-detonation
> >for low-power-efficiency and requires low octane,
> >additive-free gasoline or diesel fuel.
> >It is also multi-fuel compatible
> >(including direct hydrogen combustion)
> >and offers a drastic reduction in existing
> >propulsion system weight, size, maintenance and costs.
> >Utilised within the internal combustion engine,
> >the photo-detonation process could save
> >half the gasoline now consumed by vehicles
> >and provide substantial environmental benefits.
> >Article at : http://gizmag.com/go/3501
> >
> >Meilleures salutations, Gilles
> >www.quasiturbine.com
>
> Advertising on usenet ... naughty, naughty !!!
>
> Besides ... the engine is pretty much like an
> overly-complicated wankel ... the same issues
> of low torque, chamber sealing and inefficient
> combustion would apply. The added parts in
> this 'turbine' - especially the little roller
> gizmos that have to operate in the combustion
> chamber environment - suggest that this design
> would be less reliable than its wankel cousins.

What planet have you been living on since 1970? Wankels are now
extremely reliable: better than pistons. (the apex seal problem had a
simple solution) and Mazda and other manufacturers use side porting to
cut oil consumption down to very low levels.

If you'd ever driven an RX-8 or Rx-7 you wouldn't complain about
torgue.

Mind you the original wankel as planed by Dr Felix should have been
reliable as the whole outer engine and rotor were both to rotate so
that no seals movement should have occured at all.

>
> Why not work on making a REAL turbine more
> affordable, effecient and throttle-responsive ?
> Far lower parts count, far fewer moving parts,
> far lower weight, equal fuel versatility,
> better NOx and ozone figures due to lower
> transient combustion-chamber pressures and
> temperatures .....

Turbines so far have only been made of expensive materials whose cost
can not be reduced and even then struggle to be efficient at part
loads.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Quasiturbine - Article in GizMag
    ... >>Quasiturbine tech promises engine paradigm shift ... >>Utilised within the internal combustion engine, ... > would be less reliable than its wankel cousins. ... > Why not work on making a REAL turbine more ...
    (sci.energy)
  • Re: Bonzo caught lying again
    ... Lower combustion pressure engines that do not experience detonation with low octane gasoline will not benefit from using a higher octane fuel. ... Other properties of gasoline and engine design account for the manner at which deflagration takes place. ...
    (alt.machines.cnc)
  • Re: 94 115 Johnson starts in driveway but not in the ocean?
    ... Maybe it would be better to simply start with the diesel engine, since it can already tolerate the full lean-burn scenario. ... Then install a second injector in the cylinder, timed to inject water, later than the fuel nozzle. ... The problem may be to get the combustion done, early enough to give time for water injection to follow and water evaporation to occur. ...
    (rec.boats.building)
  • Re: Wankels ???
    ... gasoline at high RPM. ... Well, maybe they *do* just that in a dirty-running Wankel, but the ... "The power delivery in a rotary engine is also smoother. ... each combustion event lasts through 270 degrees of the output ...
    (rec.motorcycles)
  • Re: Strongly Nonlinear Problems
    ... The numerical solution for reaction--diffusion combustion with fuel consumption. ... Zbl pre02175421 Shidfar, A.; ... Numerical study of in-cylinder pressure in an internal combustion engine. ...
    (sci.math.num-analysis)

Quantcast