Re: But There Ain't No Global Warming.

From: G. R. L. Cowan (gcowan_at_eagle.ca)
Date: 01/21/05 

Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:34:51 -0500

Michael Davis wrote:
>
> G. R. L. Cowan wrote:
> > Michael Davis included:
> >
> >
> >>I'd like to see some actual hard evidence of some CO2 driven
> >>global warming before buying into this end of the world scenario
> >>du jour. Is that really too much to ask?
> >
> >
> > Well, as an honest man, you wouldn't put your fingers in your
> > ears at every presentation of evidence
>
> What evidence?
>
> > and say, "that's not
> > evidence",
>
> If it's not evidence, it's not evidence. You may be fooled by it, but
> perhaps not everyone is quite so gullible. If any *real* evidence of
> human caused global warming ever shows up the debate will go away,
> because real evidence isn't debatable.
>
> > right? But you probably can appreciate that what
> > with the huge influence of fossil fuel revenue, both private
> > and (especially) public, many would do, will do, and in my opinion
> > are doing exactly this.
>
> Conspiracy theories and paranoia aren't evidence. Careful, you are
> starting to sound like JW.
>
> >
> > When enough actual hard evidence to satisfy you turns up,
> > it will not yet be time to buy into an end of the world
> > scenario, right?
>
> Huh?
>
> >
> > Consider a property-management analogy.
> > You rent a house to some tenants, and they begin
> > playing ball indoors. They point out the extreme
> > softness of the rubber balls they're using,
> > deny that any windows could possibly get broken,
> > assert that the windows are all robustly intact.
> >
> > To rumours of breakage, they point out that
> > the betting industry that makes money off people
> > who bet on the games, and the government that taxes
> > both the winnings and the betting shops' take,
> > plus levies a rubber ball tax, have created
> > a climate of fear such that while all
> > assertions of window breakage are false,
> > it is Official Doctrine that they are true,
> > and a scientist who points out the windows' intactness
> > does so at his own peril ...
> >
> > As landlord, especially if you live upstairs,
> > you may find this disturbing even if you aren't afraid
> > they're going to burn the house down.
>
> That has got to be the lamest analogy I have ever had the misfortune of
> reading, but I'll play along since it seems to be the best you can do.
> As landlord I'd simply inspect my property and see if anything is
> broken. If it is then heads will roll ...

But windows break all the time, for all kinds of reasons --
birds, hail, strong winds, neighbours' children.
Whom will you decapitate?

Further, glass is transparent. How do you know
there is no glass in that frame? It could be there
without your seeing it.

If there is no glass now, who are you to pretend
that there ever *was* any? And impugn the goodness
of your good tenants?

-- Graham Cowan, former hydrogen fan
http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/Paper_for_11th_CHC.html --
How individual mobility gains nuclear cachet

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