Re: cheap clean electricity (again) machines

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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 02:24:18 GMT

"Ed Earl Ross" <edearl@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Don Kelly wrote:
> >
> > My dictionary says "1) an apparatus using or applying mechanical power,
> > having several parts, each with a definite function, which together
perform
> > certain kinds of work. 2)a particular kind of machine, e.g. a vehicle,
piece
> > of electrical or electronic apparatus,etc. 3)...."
> > This is a bit broader than your strictly mechanical definition.
> > However, in general, such things as transformers are not called
machines
> > while motors with a mechanical component are.- as you say- called
machines.
> > A solenoid can also be called a machine although there may be no lever,
> > wheel or inclined plane involved. It will do mechanical work.
>
> All the dictionaries I've looked at contain many definitions for
> machine.
>
> > All I intended was that "machine" has become somewhat looser than it was
200
> > years ago.
>
> Agree.
>
> Words with so many definitions must be interpreted in context. As
> the topic was ppm (a mechanical device), interpretations such as a
> computer being a machine are out of context.
>
> Raheman's ppm is a hydraulic device. There are analogies in
> hydraulics to (some) solid mechanical machines. For example, a
> hydraulic jack is similar to a lever. Lubricating oil serves a
> similar purpose as a wheel, it reduces friction and makes movement
> of a load easier. I am unable to think of a hydraulic analogy to an
> inclined plane.
>
> In any case, neither a fluid nor a solid mechanical machine can
> create energy or power, regardless of complexity. A ppm is impossible.
>
> Thanks for your help. Your critical review forced me to enhance my
> concept of machines and improve my critique of ppm, including
> Raheman's ppm.
> --
> Humbly--Ed
>
> Mark Twain
> "There is something fascinating about science.
> One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
> out of such a trifling investment of fact."
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Fair enough - both of us gained.

-- 
Don Kelly
dhky@peeshaw.ca
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