Re: hydrogen powered cars?

Charles Edmondson wrote:
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Hi AE,
Don doesn't really tolerate fools very well. 

I'd say that's his very personal problem.

Let me see if I can explaing this...

You have some great electricity, but you want to drive a car. For today, you use the electricity in your house, and use the savings to buy gasoline.

But, lets say, you are an envirowhacko, and have a religous thing about using electricity.

.... or oil prices went up to 100 or 200 $ per barrel and water, solar, nuclear, whatever power is simply the cheaper solution.

Then, you build yourself a battery powered electric vehicle. 

Not good: I need speed and range.

In addition today's battery powered vehicles are too slow, have to get re-charged too frequently - which takes too much time if batteries are stayiung in place, and which requires the right type of batteries being available to change them.

You can't buy one (just like you can't buy an H2 powered one) because there is no economic reason to manufacture one, so it is strictly a build it yourself proposition today. Why not H2? Because, by the time you buy a electrolyser (good luck on that one too...) 

No problem - I might buy one of the small HOGEN-GC models from Science
Support ...

develop a usable storage method,

Like liquid hydrogen zylinders used by major hydrogen suppliers like Linde ...

use that to store your H2 output, and then also store it in your vehicle, and then buy (Ha-ha, again) the fuel cells to go to the electric motors on your H2 vehicle, you find out it was way cheaper and easier to have bought a whole bunch of laptop batteries, and built your own motor drive circuits, and built a pure electric. Also, you conserved a whole lot more resources and energy that way.

Of course you are aware that pre-series models of hydrogen driven cars are available and that at least one manufactorer is planning to make this car commercially available while the current gas-driven model is still in production (which gives a hint toward the time I have to wait for my hydrogen car)?

Now, you talked about a plane. Then, you take that electricity, and use that to power a fuel synthesis plant that makes synthetic gasoline.

What process would you suggest ot do that and what efficiency would you expcet for this process?

H2 would only be useful if you were going to build a zeppelin...

Interesting claim, since hydrogen driven planes were already successfully tested ...

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