Re: hooo boy...

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:03:59 -0400, "G. R. L. Cowan" <gcowan@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>The Phantom wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:05:30 -0400, "G. R. L. Cowan" <gcowan@xxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The Phantom wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:10:14 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >BobG wrote:
>> >> >> Come on Paul... You and Don talk in a very dense code... fill me in...
>> >> >> this is bogus because its a rehash of Brown's Gas? Some guy won a
>> >> >> Darwin award for blowing is britches off with a batch of Brown's Gas?
>> >> >> If this is an elaborate charade, it seems pretty well done at first
>> >> >> glance.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >It ain't even close.
>> >> >
>> >> >Even at a casual glance, to me the site immediately raises fundamental
>> >> >thermodynamic violation and similar questions. I would strongly expect
>> >> >the same reaction from anyone else reasonably trained in science,
>> >> >chemistry, or engineering.
>> >> >
>> >> >It is exceptionally easy to mismeasure hydrogen temperatures because the
>> >> >emissivity lies primarily in the ultraviolet rather than the infrared.
>> >> >
>> >> >The claimed 10,000 degree temperatures would seem exceptionally unlikely
>> >> >to me. Similar claims were also a mainstay of the previous Brown's Gas
>> >> >bogosity.
>> >>
>> >> I notice that it's 10000 degrees *fahrenheit* that they claim. A
>> >> person could show up at one of their weekly demonstrations with a
>> >> piece of tungsten and see if they can melt it.
>> >
>> >Tungsten is easy to oxidize. A thoria lamp mantle,
>> >if you can find one, would be a better test.
>>
>> According to the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, thorium oxide
>> melts at 3050 centigrade, within the capability of oxyacetylene. So
>> melting of a thoria mantle wouldn't prove that their torch is any
>> hotter than oxyacetylene.
>
>But in the very likely event that their torch
>is significantly cooler than an oxyhydrogen torch
>due to their mixture's large water vapour content,
>the mantle will just light up the way it's designed to,
>and not melt.

Therefore, either way, a thoria lamp mantle isn't a very good test
of their clamis.

>
>
>--- Graham Cowan, former hydrogen fan
>http://www.eagle.ca/~gcowan/Paper_for_11th_CHC.html --
>boron as energy carrier: real-car range, nuclear cachet

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