Re: World's Largest Solar Array to use Stirling Engine
- From: "K. Jones" <shadetree1999@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:32:38 -0400
"Dan Bloomquist" <public21@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> K. Jones wrote:
> > "Don W." <dNOSPAMwiddersAThotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >>OK, give me your figure... I just took the one I found (actually, it
> >>included 2000.) Whatcha got?
> >>(Here's a link indicating that prices dropped significantly in 2001:
> >>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1124158)
>
> Notice he said dropped to $20 - $70 /Mwh. You had previously said:
>
> "On an ongoing basis, many industrial users buy electricity at $.03 per
kWh"
I said that?
They could have contracted the power at a set rate, is that a utility that
also offers the consumers to buy "green power" at a premium? They could
also be betting on forcasted increases in electrical rates as well. And
their financing might be a very sweet deal as well.
K. Jones
> This may be true but it means someone is taking a loss. Here is a
> regular watch on the electrical market:
>
> http://www.newsdata.com/wps/archives.html
>
> Off peak is now running $.05 - $.06. But the relevant price is on peak,
> while the dish is producing, and that's more like $.07 - $.08.
>
> It is just that we can't use old data. Last time we spoke of the market
> price it was a long while ago and must not have been in the summer. But
> why is off peak so much higher now?
>
> http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/ngw/ngupdate.asp
>
> Natural gas is not what it use to be. We have peaked in production and
> are one unseasonable summer and winter away from shortages. The
> electrical industry overbuilt natural gas plants in the previous decade.
> It was driven by gas at a cost of $1/Mbtu. Here you have a perfect
> example of a market in a purely opportunistic mode. There was no
> planning for a peak in natural gas even when it was obviously happening.
>
> We are about to do the same with world oil. But this shock could come
> quicker and cause a great deal of damage to economies.
>
> > http://www.theimo.com/imoweb/marketdata/marketToday.asp
> >
> > Gives prices in Canadian dollars, I'll leave you guys to the conversions
> >
> > Avg. for August, $116.46/MWh, or 11.65 cents per kWh
>
> Thanks Don, K.
>
> > K. Jones
>
> Best, Dan.
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