Re: hydrogen myths

This news group is about hydrogen energy.
In general people don't try to offend you.
To be able to have a better world we need to find a way to stop using
fosil fuels. The new trend indicate that we need to have new concept in
relation
to energy and where it will come from.
One demostrated theory has to do with the idea that space is not empty. So
the energy
will posible come from that aparent emtyness.
In the case of Hydrogen the idea is to get it from H2O using a very high
frecuency
and posible without a tank to store it. But in a very cheap way.
This seems like a dream. Without a dream we will not develop the technology.
A positive contribution to inform and come up with ideas
I think will be a tiny step but it could be all that a smart person need to
make it happen.
There is a lot of information about this and is becoming big.
So far there are a few who claim to have done it.
I hope it happen soon.
A supporter.

"fkasner" <fkasner@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Raleigh Myers wrote:
>> "Don Lancaster" <don@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:42od3rF1k158dU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>>Charlie Edmondson wrote:
>>>
>>>>Bosone wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hi!
>>>>>i have recently found this NG.
>>>>>do you people already know these publications?
>>>>>
>>>>>"20 hydrogen myths"
>>>>>http://www.rmi.org/images/other/Energy/E03-05_20HydrogenMyths.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This is from a pro-hydrogen organization, who chief method of
>>>>'debunking' the facts, is to say "It just ain't so! And this other
>>>>pro-hydrogen organization agrees with me!" They will sorta admit the
>>>>facts, but then say they aren't really important because we need to go
>>>>to hydrogen anyway...
>>>>
>>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Many thanks,
>>>
>>>Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
>>>Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
>>>rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
>>
>>
>> Imagine criticizing a pro Hydrogen paper on a Hydrogen List.
>>
>> List of right wing think tanks and astroturf organization whence our
>> kibitzers come from. There are those on this list that who are here to
>> ridicule
>> the Hydrogen Economy rather than make it happen on a Hydrogen list. We
>> know
>> the right wing petrol NAZIs pay to sponsor kibitzers and have studies
>> drawn
>> up along with fake news by the Swifting For Hire Rovarian Kool Aid Kids
>> perhaps the shoe fits a few here. Flash version
>> http://www.exxonsecrets.org/
>>
>> http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/listorganizations.php
>>
>> So if the kool aid kids can see beyond the global warming and the
>> unsustainability of opulence, the faith based petrol NAZI brainwashing
>> and
>> forced fed ditto lemming mantras, perhaps you might come around the bend
>> a
>> bit. What we can't do is continue on the same unsustainable path of
>> total
>> destruction just to keep 1% of the population in la la land.
>> http://www.igc.apc.org/raenergy/stupid.html#Hydrogen
>>
>> The UCS has been a proponent of the Solar Hydrogen Economy. Iceland has
>> declared themselves in the hydrogen Economy, BP is becoming the lead
>> fossil,
>> California and Europe are installing Hydrogen stations etc. It seems they
>> put aside their allegiance to the carbon merchants and put their hearts
>> with
>> their progeny.
>> List of right wing think tanks and astroturf organization whence our
>> kibitzers come from.
>> http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/listorganizations.php
>>
>> Ra Energy Fdn.
>> Raleigh Myers
>> Work*** bio
>> http://raenergy.igc.org/ArchitypeOfFairness.html
>
> Have you ever taken a single SCIENCE course in thermodynamics? These are
> not suggestions. They are laws of nature. You cannot get a free lunch.
> Where is the energy going to come from to create all that hydrogen? Would
> that energy be more efficiently used more directly rather than using it
> manufacture H2 ?
>
> Childish claims made by you convince only other children. Grow up, read
> some science and stop fooling yourself.
> FK


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