Re: End of the Road for Hydrogen

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:37:42 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Josh Hill wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Josh Hill wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dan Bloomquist wrote:
kT wrote:

Internal combustion engines and drive trains are notoriously
inefficient no matter what fuel you burn in them.

And, what do you have in mind?

The simple fact of the matter is that gasoline and diesel engines will continue to be
used for motive power for many hundreds of years.

They're simply unbeatably convenient to use in so many applications. They will
increasingly be complemented by other methods of course.

I think you're drastically overestimating their longevity. Carbon
limits are coming, oil supplies are dwindling,

Really ? Do tell more.

Dude, if you don't know that we're running out of cheap oil, you're on
another planet!

Where did I say cheap ?

Beyond a certain price point oil is no longer competitive.

they're dirty, noisy, and complex,

They're not complex at all. Nor even particularly dirty.


and they're showing signs of end-game obsolescence --
hybrids, increasingly complex systems, etc. Once the storage problem
is solved, electric motors will come into their own, and that doesn't
appear to be too far away.

"Once the storage problem is solved" !!!!

Hmmm.....

Reminder: this is the twenty-/first/ century. We're already halfway
there.

Hydrocarbon fuels are *very* lightweight and compact. A huge advantage.

But one that is disappearing, at least to the degree that it matters.

--
Josh

[Truly] I say to you, [...] angel [...] power will be able to see that [...]
these to whom [...] holy generations [...]. After Jesus said this, he departed.

- The Gospel of Judas
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