Re: National Hydrogen Pipeline

On May 31, 12:28 pm, Dan Bloomquist <publi...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bill Ward wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:58:07 +0000, Dan Bloomquist wrote:

Christ Bill. This is the same idiot that has been posting for years
here......

Yeah, I know. But he's never given a production date before. The product
kept changing, but now he says he's frozen the design. Some of his ideas
are innovative and plausible, but getting to a production prototype that
can actually be built for his estimated cost will not be easy.

If he actually has a demonstrable, producible prototype in 8 months,
I'll be impressed. He'll have to hire some experienced, practical
designers to get there. Highly creative people usually can't stop trying
to improve the product, and have schedule problems.

That may raise issues when the VC folks start monitoring progress. They
often worry quite vocally when schedules slip. I have no idea how much
background in the area Mook has, but since he doesn't seem to have the
cockiness knocked out of him yet, I'd guess not much.

I do hope he can at least get some inexpensive solar panels on the market.

Wish him luck. He's going to need it.

If he could really produce panels at $10/meter^2 installed, it would be
big news. Squat instead. So far it is what it has always been, cheap talk.- Hide quoted text -

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I have made an announcement and I made the news in Asia. I got
interviewed by reporters from the New York Times and Wall Street
Journal. Articles were written and they never made it to print. I
don't know what's up with that. But there you go.

Figure the costs out yourself. I teach you how to make it in my
patents. You've got layers of PET film, molded into lens shapes and
filled with water, and a PV cell at the focus.

Now, a cubic meter of PET plastic masses 1.2 metric tons and costs
$1,200 per metric ton. That's $1,400 per cubic meter. A layter 200
microns thick and 1 m2 in area is 1/5000th of a cubic meter, so
1/5000th this cost which $0.28 - this is the material I make my lens
cavities from. These are precision molded and fuse together in a
water bath. The water is the lensing material.

A cubic meter of water, 1000 liters, costs $0.60 per metric ton. I
have a series of lenses that are 20 mm deep - which is 1/500th of a
meter so the volume of water for a square meter is 1/1500th of a cubic
meter - which is nil per square meter.

The lens system created by the water filled lenses focus sunlight to
1,000x solar intensity. So, 1 square meter = 10,000 sq cm requires 10
sq cm of PV cells. A 4" (100 mm) wafer costs $12.50 - this is a
$1.60 per square meter of collector area;

COST PER SQ METER OF MAJOR COMPONENTS

PET Plastic: $0.28
Water $0.00
PV Dies $1.60
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$1.88

COST PER WATT

1,000 Watts/m2 * 0.18 = 180 Watts/m2

~ $0.01 per watt

This is just the panel, not the copper interconnects, not the transprt
and installation, not the balance of system costs - which add another
$0.06 per peak watt.


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