Re: How many hydrogen cars on the road in the US today?

On Jun 5, 2:41 am, Bill Ward <b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:17:05 +0000, Willie.Mookie wrote:
On Jun 4, 8:55 pm, Bill Ward <b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:38:52 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Willie.Moo...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Think about it this way. Before a factory for a car is made, concept
cars are tried out and some prototypes are made. Those are studied by
industrial engineers and price targest are established and so forth,
along with volume goals, and then a plant is designed and built and
operated to meet those goals.

But you said your panels are ready to go.

Haven't you tested them even ? Why do you need protoypes if they're so
production ready ?

You've been lying.

Graham

Now, Graham, never assume malevolence when simple inexperience will
suffice. You're an engineer, and you're always looking for things that
can go wrong. William's a visionary, and looks for all the things that
might go right. I don't think he's had the pleasure of meeting Mr.
Murphy yet.

Odds are he's not yet built more than 10K units of anything. Right, Mr
Mook? Don't misunderstand me, I'm still rooting for you, but not as
optimistically as I was.

BTW, flying over AZ the other day, I noticed a couple of giant
automotive proving grounds. Don't forget that phase of your business
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haha.. It sure seems like I've known Mr. Murphy for a large number of
years! haha.. Graham's experience is no excuse for his dishonesty and
rudeness.

Fact is, I"ve built dozens of prototypes and operated themfor years- and
I've used the data to design a large scale low cost production method and
hired an industrial company to use the data from our prototpes to develop
a production plant.

I've closed 3 energy development projects and I'm building a plant right
now to support those - that plant will build 5,100 units per hour.

Over the next six months I'll have this completed. Over the year
following I'll build 100 strings of 2544 each - over 250,000 units for
field testing of a variety of methods for installing and operating on an
unprecedented scale I've developed on paper. 125 MW - just for test.

Once that is completed, I'll be building 60 million units for two sites
generating over 30 billion watts completed over the 18 months following. -
36 months from today.

Even so the bulk of the funds for the solar assisted Bergius facilities
will be for coal processing.

I have five other projects after that, and plans to go to 26,000 panels
per hour second generation after 36 months with 6 months slated for
retooling. This is 120 GW per year.

I've no plans to sell panels to anyone. I'm doing energy projects - and I
can keep doing that for decades.

CAPEX for a 200,000 b/d is $7 billion and 200,000 b/d at current rates is
worth $85 billion NPV. Two such facilities are worth $170 billion But
this is just the beginning.

I've sold 65% of the output of these facilities to pay for the work. The
bulk of the money will be spent for solar panels after completion of the
tests described over the next 18 months. Needless to say there are
several exit strategies based on the success of achieving my cost targets.

High cost hydrogen, made from solar sources at $900 per ton, is sufficient
to dewater coal and make the planned facility marginally profitable - and
for a couple of other uses.

Hydrogen at $170 per ton means the facility will go ahead full bore, and
likely be expanded to 700,000 b/d each. That's the first four 'squares'
slated after delivery of the first two - all within 48 months of today.

One system uses a square 36 sq mile system And I will produce 7 of those
a year - one in less than two months. Each 'square' will add about $80
billion to the value 300 million tons of coal in the ground - the panels
will be central to the success of this program..

The United States has 245 billion of easily recoverable coal. Using my
technology this can be considered equivalent to over 1.7 trillion barrels
of liquid fuels - 2x the current world supply. ALL from the US. This
alone will support 1,000 squares - totalling an unbelievable $80 trillion.
But do we need that much oil. Not yet. Not ever either.

The world uses 80 million barrels a day - and 400 facilities will create
that. - at 7 per year one panel plant will take 57 years. Longer term I
hope to make 14 manufacturing plants worldwide - to provide hydrogen on an
unprecedented scale.

Of course over time,with lower cost energy, fuel demand for the whole
planet will skyrocket - and demand will grow - translating to hydrogen
moving away from hydrocarbons.

I hope your accomplishments match your intentions. Right now, color me
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Whatever - I've got work to do - see you all later - its been real!
haha..


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