Re: New Laws of Physics

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:07:04 -0700, hhc314 wrote:

On Jul 12, 7:57 pm, Don Lancaster <d...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hhc...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jul 11, 9:15 pm, knews4u2c...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

http://rense.com/general77/newlaws.htm

Stupid post. Learn some chemistry you idiot!

Harry C.

We have a very interesting class of "oxygen free" fires around here.
They are called cotton module fires.

These burn from the inside out in total absence of oxygen or air.
Through a low grade exothermic pyrolysis process.

Heat breaks the well insulated cottonseed oil down into lesser
components with the release of oxygen. Oxygen burns the components and
raises the heat, which...

The process takes many hours but can easily cause thousands of dollars
in damages.

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Don, where I was raised in the rural part of New Jersey (yes, there is a
rural part), spontaneous combustion of hay was a frequently claimed cause
of barn fire. (I say "frequently claimed" because of its obvious
suggestion.)

Back then, the common believe among the volunteer firemen (yes South
Jersey at that time had entirely volunteer fire departments) was that the
way to fiight the smouldering in the hay, was to saturate it with
gasoline. That was done many times, and of course many hay barns were
reduced to embers.

Have you, given your experience, have ever encountered this practice, and
is it simply another urban legend or is it real?

Why I ask is simply that my dad was the "Foreman" of the local hook and
ladder volunteer fiire department, and while I respected my dad and his
contributions to our community, I came to later wonder about the wisdom of
squirting gasoline on smoldering hay. (Just to illustrate my dad, who I
loved dearly, was the Chief Air Raid Warden in our small town during WWII,
and our basement held an inert but very real 250-lb bomb, which was carted
out and methodically defused during air raid excercises which, later in
life, made me begin to wonder!!!! Even at the age of 12, I had to wonder
why a bomb of that size would be simply sitting on the road, after being
dropped from say 10,000 feet. Then too, today I would blame it on
government training.

Don, just curious, have you ever heard of the use of gasoline on hay
smolders? Does it make sense?

Long ago, Harry, I heard a similar story from my father, but involving
smoldering cotton bales. Supposedly, water could not penetrate the bale
and displace the O2, while kerosene would snuff the fire without
difficulty.

I have no direct knowledge of how well it worked, but it seemed
non-controversial to others at the time. Later, I guessed the cotton may
have contained cottonseed oil, which would be lipophilic, and may not have
allowed water to wet it. I don't know whether anyone ever tried soapy
water.

Regards,

Bill Ward

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