Re: Chevron Restricts US Access to Electric Automotive Batteries Through Patent Control



On Jul 23, 3:09 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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hhc...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
hhc...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Tim Campbell wrote:
The manufacturing unit, "COBASYS" (http://www.cobasys.com/home/home.htm), is
currently
declining to manufacture and market these batteries for battery electric
automotive use in the US

It seems you lie.

" Orion, MI, May 15 , 2007--- Cobasys, a leading supplier of advanced integrated
energy storage solutions, today announced it has supplied its NiMHax® Nickel
Metal Hydride (NiMH) battery systems for integration into hybrid electric heavy
trucks developed by Armor Holdings Inc. for the U.S. Army. "http://www.cobasys.com/news/20070515.shtml

" Orion, MI, May 21 , 2007--- Cobasys, a leader in advanced, integrated energy
storage system solutions, today announced it has supplied its patented Nickel
Metal Hydride (NiMH) NiMHax® battery systems to Enova Systems for integration
into specially designed hybrid service vans for Verizon. The service van program
will make Verizon the first major U. S. company to retrofit vans with hybrid
power technology for use in their fleet."http://www.cobasys.com/news/20070521.shtml

Graham, your point is? The OP was foused on electric automobiles, and
specifically not Verizon vans.

Purely electric only vehicles ?

I can't see much of a future for them. it's like chopping your legs off.

That's true with current levels of the technology, but given 50-75
years more, who knows?

I can't ever see a downside to adding a small generator to an EV and that makes it a hybrid. An ICE powered
generator can also supply vital heating and additioanl electric power for winter use which would otherwise
exhaust the batteries very fast.

For example, say a pure EV's range is 40 miles. How much will that be reduced with lights, screen defrosting and
cabin heating ? I doubt It would male 20 miles.

Another option is the federal IVHS program, which in it's ultimate
form will supply electrical energy through the roads themselves. How
they plan to do this I have no idea, and it's right up there with the
"self-driving car" and today simply more science fiction.

It's nuts.

Still, in another 50 years? Remember, in 1900 no one realized that you could
extract energy from a non-combustable rock, but that is in essence
just what nuclear power reactors do!

No, the basic science of electromagnetic indcution means that the idea will always be nuts. It's 'do-able' but
massively energy wasteful.

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Graham, electromagnetic induction works for your electric toothbrush
quite well, so (and I know that this sounds dumb) why not for electric
cars? Actually, you have to run the math to get a good answer to that
question. Actually, I'm not even sure that electromagnetic induction
would the that energy wasteful, since an unloaded transformer draws
only limited current, and that current is reactive.

Then too, I believe it was you that suggested that the energy transfer
in the IVHS scheme was magnetic induction. I'm told that they are
examining all sorts of systems.

Harry C.








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