Re: iron catalyzed hydrogen at low temps
- From: BradGuth <bradguth@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:40:16 -0800 (PST)
On Jan 22, 6:53 pm, vuv...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
iron nanopowder will catalyze decomposition of H2O to hydrogen and
oxygen at 100 degrees centigrade. That's in the Mercke index. Does
anyone know how efficient that reaction is?
Iron and many other substances can obviously be processed for
extracting hydrogen, however Mook's basis of cheap solar derived
energy is but only hyped as a sham by way of those trying to
continually snooker and dumbfound the rest of us village idiots, as
otherwise it is but one of several viable alternatives to our fossil
fuel demise and of having to survive those unavoidable world wars that
seriously suck and badly inflate the value of most all that remains.
Since there is quite a energy loss in commercially obtaining raw
hydrogen to start with, not to mention on behalf of storing and
distributing such to various end users, whereas such you'll need lots
of clean and fully renewable forms of spare/surplus energy to start
with.
A coverage of just one million km2 worth of relatively cheap PV units
should more than do the trick, and that's not including multiple other
clean and renewable energy alternatives of greater energy density that
wouldn't demand nearly a tenth as much of a surface footprint.
On a somewhat related topic of what to do with some of that spare/
surplus energy:
On Jan 27, 8:45 am, Don Lancaster <d...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jim Rojas wrote:
Gasoline is 8 times more explosive than Hydrogen.
Not true.
The spark ignition energy of hydrogen is much lower than most other
substances.
0.017 mJ for hydrogen
0.274 mJ for methane
See http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf
It's true that a fuel-rich burn of hydrogen and air isn't all that
impressive, as well as being the case with most such fuel-rich
combustion forms of energy that'll consume a local atmosphere of
mostly cool N2. However, it seems the "Don Lancaster" notion of a
global future of spendy energy and continued pollution via fossil fuel
usage is just the sooty and NOx toxic tip of his AGW iceberg that's
intended to stick all of us with the even more spendy and environment
polluting results of our having to fully utilize nuclear energy, of
which excludes most all those pesky 3rd world nations and especially
of those Muslim folks we don't like right off the bat, that'll simply
have to do without and/or starve to death because of their not
affording the bloody $1000/barrel price tag of the Don Lancaster
crude, or of his equally spendy and more so polluting coal derived
energy.
Essentially the Don Lancasters of Usenet and so many other public
forums are doing exactly what their ENRON and big-energy partners in
crimes against humanity expect of their brown-nosed minions, as though
only their form of Semitic warlordism and global energy domination is
what counts. Taking further notice as to how each and every rant of
Lancaster wisdom is without a stitch of remorse for the past, present
or future as long as his mostly offshore energy investments and tax
avoidance banking is being stuffed with our hard earned loot, so much
so that they never have to complain about the cost of energy that's
sustaining their quality of life.
I can fully agree with the analogy/rant as to gasoline and of many
other fossil fuels being extremely dangerous from birth to grave, as
well as potentially lethal in ways often discounted by those
continually promoting their usage. However, there is less to worry
about the making, storing and using of h2o2 (hydrogen peroxide) than
having to deal with the likes of creating compressed hydrogen or
especially that of LH2. Unfortunately, no matters how clean and
renewable there is no such thing as any failsafe form of stored
energy, whereas most any certified moron can and will mange to
accomplish great harm to himself and others if given the opportunity.
In place of those nasty and explosive fossil fuels that typically
manage to degrade and/or pollute most everything in sight, there is in
fact more than a sufficient influx of solar, gravity/tidal and
otherwise of wind plus that cache of our own geothermal energy to do
the trick of producing H2/LH2 and h2o2, as well as cheaply enough and
clean enough to make it all work. Unfortunately, there is no apparent
way our DOE or any other government agency is going to support the
likes of honest folks, because that's certainly not what our
government ever does. Our government seems to like ulterior motives,
hidden agendas and of those cloak and dagger sorts of individuals in
charge of such.
However, as for the rest of us having our honest say, on behalf of
accomplishing such clean and renewable energy is always opposed by the
actions of those in Usenet and the likes of NASA's brown-nosed minions
within Uplink.Space.com as not caring about others of any faith other
than their pretend atheism that acts and/or reacts exactly as though
Old Testament Jewish, of those individuals hiding behind phony names
and extensively not caring as to however spendy energy gets, of how
polluted and AGW our environment gets nailed or of how much our
government lies to us, that are also the ones telling us that whatever
the past doesn't count and that if need be WWIII is necessary, and
that Muslim deaths simply don't ever count.
Our new and improved NASA, that for the past 8 years and counting as
having ignored all things Venus, is about to fold upon itself once
again (as you should know the 8th fold is next to impossible), and
that's before their own dumbfounded eyes of denial and evidence
exclusion, in much the same as our old NASA/Apollo fiasco that for
some odd reasons still can't be imaged from the best efforts of JAXA's
Selene (KAGUYA) as offering its 3D imaging that's of a more than
sufficient 10 meters/pixel resolution and terrific DR that's at least
4X better than film, as though our supposed "right stuff" that's so
bright and shiny upon that physically dark surface is having to
continually hide under most any available moon rock because, there's
still nothing of any such bright and shiny Apollo technology residing
upon that physically dark as coal moon of ours (unless an artificial
crater counts).
Basically our governments lie to us as regular as clockwork, and as
such they only want to do business with other born-again liars of
their own kind because, the last thing they need within their Skull
and Bones cult is someone telling us village idiots the whole truth
and nothing but the truth, such as about those clean and renewable
energy resources that can safely produce the likes of Mook hydrogen
and Guth peroxide.
.. - Brad Guth
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