Re: how can someone spoof usenet?



On Jan 27, 7:12 pm, Jakthehammer <jakthh...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 27, 3:27�pm, Robert Adsett <s...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





In article <36bd6a5e-3e6b-40d5-a3b7-fc2e96ceb7e9
@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, �says...

Hey,

I have noticed that there are two posts recently made on usenet that
say they are from me, they even show up in my google groups page - but
I didn't write them. �I attempted to flag them as phoney, but I find
it very troubling.

This has never happened to me before, I didn't even think it was
possible to spoof someone in this way.

Just the other day I (along with many others) was spoofed in an
automated fashion in some 200 posts according to google.

Anyone have any idea how this could be done and more importantly how
to stop it?

Just change a few options in your newsreader and you can be anyone you
like.

Its something that if left unaddressed marginalizes whatever I say.
Because;

�1) if I do nothing - then another can post any damn thing as me he
wants
�2) if I change my online name - then people who know me as that
person can't find me
�3) if I announce publicly that I'm being spoofed, then no one knows
for sure if its me writing

An overstatement, you are recognized as much by your writing style as
the name attached to your post. �In particular the spoofer you recently
attracted is quite recognizable as not being you, but rather some one
else who posts here under two different names.

so, I guess I have been failed by Google, and the those who don't want
me to have a fair and honest forum to speak my piece, have won.

Ah well.

I have close to zero faith in googles willingness to deal with vandalism
coming either from them or to them. �The only saving grace is they are a
still not a majority part of usenet

Actually, Google IS a Majority of Usenet.........Google generally
carries most every Post whereas most servers don't.........That's why
removing the Posts in Google pretty much defeats the
Spoofer..........The Largest Audience for their Charade is taken away
from them...........Donchaknow.........Btw, I just removed Two More of
Greg's Posts from Google.........I HAVE The Power, you
see.............Heehee...........- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually Jack, Google carries less that 15% of the total newsgroups on
Usenet. Googles focus is largely on the newsgroups that they have
decided to archive for one reason or another. Mostly they archive the
"Big 8" newsgroups, with only a very limited number of the "alt"
groups and other Usenet domains.

Also, Google has no ability to delete posts once they are posted on
Usenet newsgroups. Google make no pretence of the fact that when you
read newsgroups on Google, you are not actually reading Usenet, so
they call everything the pick up from Usenet as a "Google Group". When
you post to a newsgroup using Google, Google sits on the post for an
undisclosed period of time and during that time you can delete it from
Google.

After that hold time expires, it is then passed on and posted to the
selected Usenet newsgroup, where it will remain under it expires in
accordance with the latency time of each particular news server (of
which there are, or were, thousands). Posts on Usenet generally cannot
be deleted because the vast bulk of news machines (Usenet servers)
refuse to recognize cancels (stemming from the days of the
cancelbots).

Harry C.

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