Re: Hydrostar generator

Yeah, Tesla is a particular favorite of mine, too. As to his wireless
transmission, they are actually developing it right now (in the form
of finely tuned transmission and reception coils) at MIT. Just read
about it in several journals. All I kept thinking was about Tesla and
Wardenclyffe.

Fun, fun reading...and definitely inspirational.

There is a fine line between genius and insanity...I've got a feeling
that Tesla crossed it several times in his life, if you really look
critically at his work. He'd come up with beautifully designed
fluidic diodes or turbines, and then put out a crackpot idea, followed
by the Tesla coil and polyphase AC current, followed by radionics.

The fun part about Tesla is that, no matter how crackpot the idea,
each of them that has been built has actually worked the way he
envisioned.

Always been interested in his electron beam gun, in particular. The
fluid mechanics involved in making an open ended vacuum tube (one of
his claims) have always escaped me...but given his track record, I
tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. Can't imagine it actually
working...but can't imagine Tesla being completely off the mark,
either.

-- Chuck Knight

On Feb 3, 3:33 pm, hhc...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 3, 12:09 am, Chuck <chuckkni...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Chuck, lots of luck, because you dream of running your car off of
water is not even plausible.

Um...I know I said I don't want to run the car off of water. I even
said it's impossible.

Here's the quote:

My desire isn't to run my car off of water...it's not within the realm
of reality, though it would be nice. My desire is, instead, to simply
increase my gas mileage so that I end up buying less gasoline. Yes, I
already check my tires, tune up the car, etc...I want more.

What I asked is whether it's possible to use the excess electricity
generated by my alternator at higher speeds to generate hydrogen...and
use that hydrogen to decrease the amount of gasoline burned. Not to
get rid of gasoline...not to run my car off of water...just to
decrease the amount of gasoline that I burn.

Not free energy...never, ever, ever. While I do enjoy reading about
John Worrel Keely, and realize that this is where the Hydrostar
builders came up with their 19KHz frequency, that doesn't mean that I
believe in the stuff.

-- Chuck Knight

I understand. The scheme that you described was closely similar to
Stan Meyer's classic scam, that was described as making a car that
would run on water, and that's why I employed that description. I you
like to read about crackpot science, here one of the funnier sites in
free energy (I much prefer myself reading about the quack medical
devices, and the people that promoted them).

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

Others have now explained in considerable detail why you cannot tap
the alternator generated electricity to produce hydrogen through and
form of electrolysis and end up with any result except a net energy
loss, so there is no need to repeat what has already been posted.

Free energy research is a noble goal, but unfortunately impossible to
obtain, in spite of a huge number of attempts (all failed) at doing
so. Man has always attracted to perpetual motion engines of various
types. It's probably fortunate that none of these devices has or will
ever work because all energy applied to performing work will
eventually end up as heat.

I still marvel at the production of energy through nuclear fission,
which is of course not free energy since fuel is consumed in the
process. Still, when you consider that by reacting elements (that have
existed on our planet for millions or possiblly billions of years)
under the right conditions release enormous amounts of energy, it
seems almost magical. As a physicist, I speculate on what other
mysteries held by nature are yet to be discovered and revealed during
the coming 200 or so years. I also sometimes wonder what the
unintended consequences might also be.

Since you mentioned Tesla, I recognize his magnificent contributions
to polyphase electricity, and everyone does. Still, his strange ideas
about wireless transmission of electrical power suggest that he was
not quite up to the basic scientfic knowledge of his contemporary
counterparts. Tesla coils are fun, but have very little practicality
except when used on a very small scale in niche applications, and the
Tesla coil itself is simply a refinement of devices that had existed
for years before Tesla was born. Sadly, there was a time in Tesla's
life changed him from genius to insanity. As much as I have read about
the man, no research has yet demonstrated when in his life that
transition took place. Were a complete collection of his notes and
papers to be made available, I believe that point would be easily
identifiable, but unfortunately (as least as far as I have been able
to find), no such collection has ever been made available. I believe
that it could be extremely productive to study his notes leading up to
that transition point.

Just sharing some of my own thoughts...

Harry C.

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