Re: Question for William Mook
- From: BradGuth <bradguth@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
On Jun 22, 9:25 am, "Bob Eld" <nsmontas...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jun 14, 4:06 pm, Williamknowsbest <William.M...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 23, 1:27 pm, Monkey Clumps <spacebrai...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 23, 12:19 pm, Don Lancaster <d...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Monkey Clumps wrote:
So what would it take to sway the skeptics?
Clogging Aisle 14 of Walmart and Home Depot with product, of course.
Er, make that Aisle 14 being completely bare because of continual
instant sellouts. Perhaps a riot or two.
But it ain't gonna happen.
You clearly have the usual ho-hum incompetent measurement of a pulse
waveform, not a fundamental thermodynamic violation.
The fundamental fuckup is analyzed in detail
inhttp://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse112.pdf
toEven posting a link to the video might constitute being an accessory
criminal fraud in certain jurisdictions. And an actionable offense.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't thinkMook'sdevice has
any connection to AC power whatsoever, so I am not sure where a pulse
waveform would come into play. The output for his device is H2 and
O2, which shouldn't be that hard to measure with the right setup.
Mookmay or may not be full of it, but his ideas aren't anywhere near
as kooky as the Stanley Meyer water car.- Hide quoted text -
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I use a themo-electro-chemical process Stanford calls it a hybrid
process in its literature - involving sulfide/sulfate cycle;
SO2 + 2 H2O --> H2SO4 + H2 aq
electricity + H2 aq ---> H2 gas
H2SO4 + heat --> H2 gas + SO4
SO4 + heat ---> O2 gas + SO2
The electricity comes from PV cells operating at 2,400x solar
intensity.
Heat comes from sunlight at 2,400x solar intensity directed by
dichroic filters to absorption surfaces - covered with sulfites...
55% of the incident solar energy is converted to chemical energy...
850 watts of direct sunlight per square meter (150 watts comes from
the rest of sky -since 15% of the light in the sky is scattered -
leaving 85% direct - focused by lenses)
AC Power
I have a number of projects that consist of 225 MW AC electrical -
gas fired power plants per project- converted to burnhydrogenand
oxygen - and recover the water vapor exhaust - emissionless. These
systems are 38% efficient - and the panels are 55% efficient.
Operated in regions that have 1,300 hours per year of sunlight, (Ohio,
Pennsylvania, Indiana) and used to provide basload capacity 8,766
hours per year - 3,992 MW peak of solar panels are needed to provide
225 MW baseload - covering 8.54 sq km (2,108 acres - see Fernald site
near Cincinnati. At $0.07 per peak watt the solar panel andhydrogen
system costs $280 million. The gas fired generators cost $120
million after modification. This includes a 100 day gas storage
capacity. Sold at a cost of $0.04 per kWh over 20 years - the face
value of the energy contract is $1.577 billion with a discounted value
of $900 million - which means that $400 million needed to build the
project is provided by selling 45% of the project.
The buyers get electricity at the same cost as coal fired plants -
with zero emissions, and the cost is fixed for 20 years. The State,
by funding the project through bonds, has a means to provide
substantial revenue. I build own and operate the facility, and earn
revenue as well.
Eraring Power in Sydney has a 2.4 GW power plant that burns 6 million
tons of coal per year. That coal is replaced by burning 1 million
tons ofhydrogenwith 8 million tons of oxygen, to produce 9 million
tons of water vapor per year. To provide this stream of gases
requires the installation of 32.6 GW of solar panels covering 69.7 sq
km of land (17,200 acres) at a cost of $2.28 billion. Another $3.2
billion worth of coal conversion equipment is installed near the power
plant to process the coal that still arrives there (they have long
term supply contracts for the coal) Another 600,000 tons ofhydrogen,
and 1.8 million tons of oxygen are consumed by the coal conversion
process. $1.2 billion of the $3.2 billion is for an additional 41.8
sq km (10,300 acres) of solar panels to produce this addedhydrogen.
In the end, 1.81 billion gallons of liquid fuels is produced by the
power station each year, in addition to 2.4 GW of AC electricity.
The value of the project is $84 billion - far more than the $5.48
billion project cost - and all emissions are reduced to zero. As a
side benefit, substantial amounts of water are desalinated, and salt
is produced.
Since everything has been technically doable for decades, is there
some special reason(s) as to why others of your own kind seldom if
ever reply to whatever you have to say, much less in any constructive/
positive kind of way?
Is your DARPA not approving of Williamknowsbest?
So, when's the first commercial green affordable tonne of Mook H2
hitting the retail fuel market?
-BradGuthBrad_GuthBrad.GuthBradGuth
So now Mook is going off on the Sulfur cycle. You gotta admit, the guy never
quits innovating. Unfortunately all of this is just back of the envelop
doodling by a bright guy to be sure. Every time he posts, the proposed cycle
changes. But, as has been said 100 times, not one gram of Mook hydrogen has
been produced for anybody. It's all smoke and mirrors.
You know what is going to freeze over before one tonne of Mook H2 ever is
delivered much less hit the retail market. I'd guess we'll all be dead a
buried long before any Mook hydrogen shows up.
True enough, unless of course public loot is utilize, such as to
donate those tens of thousands of acres and to otherwise pay for all
his R&D, as well as to reverse sales/excise tax invest additional
public and consumer loot into his offshore bank accounts.
Our resident wizard Mook could however strike a homeland deal with his
green H2 reviving our dead oil wells, as well as to accomplish that
better efficiency of converting low grade coal and most any other
fossil or bio muck into gasoline and diesel fuel that'll likely sell
for $10/gallon by the time any of this Mook stuff gets accomplished.
- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth
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