Re: Hydro Ocean Power - Tidal gererators

From: K. Jones (shadetree1999_at_hotmailNODAMNSPAM.com)
Date: 08/15/04 

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 17:09:19 -0400

"Gordon Muir" <gordonmuir2003google@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:81f1ac17.0408151018.4f202a39@posting.google.com...
> My very detailed important reply to Don Kelly is further down just
> incase you miss it or bypass it.
> Gordon Muir.

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Gordon Muir wrote;
> > > I looked at all the other inventions on the website like tidal wave
> > > machines and propeller turbines and compared to my idea they are very
> > > complicated and not very efficient and would not even produce one
> > > percent of the electricity my idea would produce,my idea could power a
> > > whole city and all the vehicals aswell if they had electric engines.
> > >
> > > They should replace the turbine propellers with giant corkscrew
> > > propellers inside a funnel,this would create 100% percent efficiency
> > > by concentrating all the force of the water pressure onto the
> > > propellers,the same should be done with wind farm turbine
> > > propellers,at the moment they are only running at 1%-5% percent of the
> > > power they could produce.
> > >
> > > Gordon Muir.
>
> WIND TURBINE.
> What i mean is the propellers are probably very efficient but not for
> wind turbines but a corkscrew propellor inside a cone shape would
> concentrate all the force of the wind onto the blades but with normal
> aeroplane propellors the wind is skimming of the blades and there is
> very little surface for the wind to push against then there is the air
> friction to slow the blades down,if all these wind turbines i see
> being put up all over the U.K. had corkscrew propellors there power
> would increase at least 4 times more output of electricity.
>
> The wind has to blow into the corkscrew which has a rod axle running
> through the centre inside horizontaly and all this would be incased in
> a funnel to concentrate the air pressure onto the blades and this
> would stop nearly all air friction from slowing the outside of the
> blades down and there would be a tail fin on the narrow end of the
> funnel to direct the widder end into the wind,a crankshaft could be
> attached to the underside of the corkscrew to turn the turbine
> generators.

All of your "ideas" are very simple to test in real life, why wouldn't you
try a simple example before you post this stuff?

Got a funnel?

Hold the big end towards the wind, see if if you get "at least 4 times" the
wind
blowing out the little end.

Go read about the principals of how wind generators work.
Study the math, try some examples.
Figure out why volume is important.

> HYDRO OCEAN POWER.
> I dont mean you just put a pipe with a giant scoop on the sea bed and
> let it fill up with water,obviously that would not work,what you do is
> have a giant valve or sluice gate at the end of the pipe near the
> scoop then you open it as fast as possible so that the cheer force of
> the water creats momentum

No difference. Put a valve on the bottom of the 12 foot pvc pipe from
our first failed experiment. Open the valve quickly. Notice pipe filling
fast, then slower, then slower, then stopping, level with the surface of the
water.

Why don't you try these things out before posting?

> but if this does not work you could have

It doesn't.

> another pipe running back out of the power station along the top of
> the other pipe back out to the giant scoop and have it curved into the
> top of the scoop so that the water coming back out of the power
> station forces down into the scoop to keep the momentum and water
> pressure going so that you have perpetual water going in and out of
> the pipes,ITS THAT SIMPLE,and if it works

It doesn't work, ITS THAT SIMPLE.

Try it.

> electricity would become
> very cheap,this means everything else would become very cheap so
> people would have more money and crime would come down aswell,all cars
> and all transportation could be powered by electric engines which
> would end most pollution and make transportation costs cheaper so
> everything on sale in the shops would become cheaper aswell.
>
> Gordon Muir.

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Now there is no doubt you are simply trolling. The experiments are so very
simple, that the only reason I can see that you would post this nonsense
without trying it out
to see if it works first, is cause you're bored, and getting amusement out
of the
replies.

K. Jones

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