Re: Why has no perpetual motion machine been invented?

From: Don Kelly (dhky_at_peeshaw.ca)
Date: 09/28/04


Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:23:31 GMT


<stark_fist_of_removal@the-fastest.net> wrote in message
news:1096340102.641712.114230@h37g2000oda.googlegroups.com...
> why after so many years of so many people looking has no one come out
> with a perpetual motion machine? with all the other acheivements of
> mankind! is there some sort of god or gods or entity out to stop it?
> how else could we possibly not accomplish it?
-
Conservation of energy has been tested repeatedly to the nth time and hasn't
failed yet. Basically in terms of energy input =output +losses so output is
always less than input. (efficiency less than 100% as losses always do
exist).
In other words, there is no free lunch!

Perpetual motion requires output in excess of input -hence the alternate
name "overunity" -better than 100% efficiency. It ain't going to happen.

-- 
Don Kelly
dhky@peeshaw.ca
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