Re: Can hydrogen deliver?

From: Tim O'Flaherty (pinwheels_Fudge__at_gwi.net)
Date: 10/07/04 

Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:59:43 -0400

"Dez Akin" <dezakin@usa.net> wrote in message
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> "Tim O'Flaherty" <pinwheels_Fudge_@gwi.net> wrote in message
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> > "Dez Akin" <dezakin@usa.net> wrote in message
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> > > "Tim O'Flaherty" <pinwheels_Fudge_@gwi.net> wrote in message
> > news:<MpCdneVRE7jQf_zcRVn-tQ@gwi.net>...
> > >
> > > Why exactly is storing waste above ground in canisters a problem?
> > > Yucca Mt is a political solution to a non-problem. Stick them in an
> > > empty parking lot for all the danger they cause.
> > >
> >
> > Well hop in your minivan and get out here and pick up the 1434 spent
fuel
> > rods here in Wiscasset Maine. Take 'em home and put them in YOUR
parking
> > lot. Come to beautiful Maine. The leaves are about to peak and you can
do
> > some antiquing on the way back.
>
> If the law allowed it I'd be glad to. I'm sure I'd make a tidy profit.
> These wastes will even have market value at some point, but until then
> I can charge a tidy fee for 'disposal' at my parking lot, or under my
> house.
>
> > > And really, in the speculative scenario of 100% nuclear power, you can
> > > certainly wager that molten salt breeder reactors will play a very
> > > large role, given they have the lowest cost fuel cycle... and
> > > incidentally can burn spent fuel from LWRs, producing less than
> > > 1/100th the waste with 1/1000th the half life.
> >
> > You forgot the fine print, the disclaimer....
>
> Which has nothing to do with the argument at hand. Oh well.
>

In so much as you are making claims about *potential* future performance of
a fleet of the reactor above I thought it was quite relevant if somewhat
toungue in cheek. Based on past industry performance.

> > Us Nuclear Energy Industry reserves the right to change the terms,
> > conditions, and notices under which the US Nuclear Powered Electricity
is
> > offered, including but not limited to the charges associated with the
> > disposal of wastes, capital costs and operation and maintenance costs.
You
> > are responsible for regularly reviewing these terms and conditions and
> > additional terms posted on your utility bill. You are also responsible
for
> > paying our insurance costs. In the event of an *event* you will
eventually
> > be informed and assigned an evacuation route. Your continued use of US
> > Nuclear Powered Electricity constitutes your agreement to all such
terms,
> > conditions, and notices.
>
> Really, whats the point of this long winded response? This is
> certainly the case for any other industry, including wind energy.

Wrong.
Wind energy doesn't require an evacuation plan, wind energy pays it's own
insurance bill and not at abitrarily set low levels of coverage, wind energy
doesn't end up costing 10X the price stated and wind energy doesn't leave
wastes that need to concern our great great great
great.......................... grandchildren. We also don't need to guard
windturbines from Osama and other threats.

I'll
> take a Chernobyl over a Bhopal any day.

What did they make at Bhopal? Pesticides? Birds of a feather.

Regards,
Tim O

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