Re: Wind energy a boon for farmers - tenfold returns !
From: Alex Terrell (alexterrell_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 11/16/04
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Date: 16 Nov 2004 15:18:57 -0800
greenfield_7@hotmail.com (Jim Greenfield) wrote in message news:<3c4afb26.0411151917.46dc0ce8@posting.google.com>...
> jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote in message news:<MO6dnfq5qIXuAAXcRVn-iw@rcn.net>...
> > In article <3c4afb26.0411141814.7719122f@posting.google.com>,
> > greenfield_7@hotmail.com (Jim Greenfield) wrote:
> > >alexterrell@yahoo.com (Alex Terrell) wrote in message
> news:<d81e59c9.0411140811.6eabf483@posting.google.com>...
> > >> greenfield_7@hotmail.com (Jim Greenfield) wrote in message
> > news:<3c4afb26.0411041512.6e3f4074@posting.google.com>...
> > <snip>
> > >
>
> > >I'm not suggesting a hundred blades- maybe a dozen (trade off sans
> > >the enviro whingers)
> > >I was quite surprised at the antagonism towards these projects from
> > >"environmentalists"- I'm not sure what their platform is for clean
> > >renewable energy,......... or just do without :-)
> >
> > Everybody else has to do without; these whiners are more deserving
> > because they're doing Good Work so everybody else has the privilege
> > of being slaves to them.
> >
> > There's a huge fight going on here about wind farm out in the ocean.
> > I just don't understand how those windmills could survive tides,
> > nor'easters, hurricanes, and salt water and still provide power
> > when needed the most (which is during these storms). None
> > of the public rhetoric has mentioned any of this.
>
> You'd think that ocean based generators would be better off using
> ocean based energy- tides and waves. Why bugger about with wind out
> there?
Ocean currents and tides are being studied. They look promising, but
wind is currently the cheapest widely available source of non-CO2
producing energy consumption.
> Either one is going to impact on other ocean use (sailing, fishing,
> transport lanes etc)
>
The sea is very big, and very empty of human activities. As for the
fishing, let's hope you're right. These turbines could provide a
sanctuary for any remaining fish.
> I read somewhere that it takes more energy to mine the materials,
> transport, and construct, a solar panel, than will ever be likely to
> have extracted. Do you know anything about that?
>
I've heard that as well, but have seen no proof or analysis. It seems
highly unlikely, so I assume it's just propoganda till someone
provides convincing evidence. Anyone?
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