Re: Arctic Refuge Under Attack

From: saict (thurberk_at_cscsw.com)
Date: 11/19/04 

Date: 19 Nov 2004 07:52:51 -0800

floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in message news:<87r7mqligo.fld@barrow.com>...
> thurberk@cscsw.com (saict) wrote:
> >
> >I'm in favor of drilling in ANWR.
>
> Do you know *anything* at all about the issues involved?
>
> >It's curious to me that the loud
> >environmental voices are the people who have never been there--never
> >looked at the place with their own eyes--never seriously judged the
> >impact.
>
> Have *you* ever been to ANWR?
>
> >Those who should have a real voice in the matter are the
> >residents of Alaska, and more especially those who live the closest.
>
> Well... I am an Alaskan. I live on the North Slope, just about
> as close as anyone to ANWR. And I've been to ANWR.

Well good for you. You're quite in the minority for Alaskans, but
you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

> I disagree with each and every statement you made above.

Isn't that great about America that we can all disagree? I disagree
with you. Shall we have a duel over it? Settle down.

> I am
> not in favor of drilling ANWR. (And yes I do know a great deal
> about the issues involved.)

I don't think you do. I don't think you've done much of a
cost/benefit analysis. I think you're speaking from an environmental
activist--spew first and think later point of view.

> I don't think people have to have
> been to ANWR to understand those issues either.

Didn't say that.

> As another
> poster here is in the habit of pointing out, do we dam the Grand
> Canyon just because I've never been to see it?

Well, some parts of the Grand Canyon have been developed, and not at a
great loss to the immense beauty of the place.
 
> But last and not least, Alaskans don't own ANWR. It is a
> national refuge. And even more significant it exists because of
> an international treaty (with Canada).

That's right. Legally Alaskans don't own ANWR. That's not much of a
point. It's the legality that's at issue here. I think Alaskans
should decide that issue. If a majority of Alaskans don't want it,
then of course we shouldn't do it. But if you think it's the Alaskans
who are the crux of the opposition, you're not as smart as you think
you are.

> Now, my suggestion is that before you pontificate on a complex
> subject you really should go learn at least something about it
> in order to avoid the appearance of being a brainless dunce.

You know, I didn't do much pontificating. What I said was short and
to the point. People resort to ad-hominems when they don't have much
of substance to say. I got your point. You're from Alaska, and
you're opposed to drilling in ANWR.

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