Re: Oil replacement

In article <1115266586.851432.304950@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "bill" <ford_prefect42@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Bruce Sinclair wrote:
>> In article <1115263193.171351.86910@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>"bill" <ford_prefect42@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > bottom line, the future of the human race is so bright I gotta
>> >wear shades.
>> .. or perhaps they are to sheild you from the bad possibilities ? :)
> no, my joo jantra super-chromatic-peril-sensitive sunglasses are
>still not opaque.

Maybe they are broken ? :)

>> There are dangers currently. Those that have faith in technology to
>"save
>> them" appear to me to be in the same zone as the religious who
>believe the
>> same thing. There is no data to back up either point of view, despite
>the
>> possibility that they are right :)
>> If they are wrong, however, we ought to be actively doing something
>now (or
>> earlier) ... the consequences are too nasty not to. YMMV of course.
> What would you have us do? conservation is at best a band-aid on
>a decapitation.

Not at all. We regularly have "power crises" here. People "save" around 10%
of the total electricity usage. We can be clever with what we use. ... or at
least, less stupid.
Example ... who ever died for not having a heated towel rail ? :)

> You are right of course, there are dangers, but they are not
>insurmountable, and they are being handled as well as possible.

! Are you so sure ? ... looks to me like the dangers are being ignored in
the (vain ?) hope that someone weill do something. That way lies disaster
IMO.

> you are also right that there is no data to back up any future
>possible revelations. however, current technology is up to the task.
>grid powered battery cars do work, albiet a little pricey, slow and
>short range. methane busses are rolling on our streets today, bio
>diesel is manufactureable. all we need to do is get out of the way of
>nuclear power and start using any of them.

No thanks. You can keep you nuke stations ... we don't need em :)

> Why are we not doing that now?? because it would make no sense at
>all to do so. until it becomes economically viable to switch over to
>these technologies, it would be a huge expenditure of capital, involve
>huge financial losses to carry it over until a hypothetical future need
>which could happen in anywhere from 15-50 years. the oil will not shut
>off like a switch, it will taper off, and during the taper, other
>methods will start making more and more sense.

... and again I say ... the theory is great ... but I reckon the practical
will involve huge upheaval as current systems crash. I simply doubt the
ability of "the market" to respond to "paradigm shifts". I guess we will see
:)



Bruce


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- George Bernard Shaw
Cynic, n: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.
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