Re: Natural origin of oil vs organic origin, a joke?

So you believe oil production is an on going process. I was thinking more
that these pools of this hydrocarbon were here from the beginning and not an
on going process.
I have to think about this for a while. You probably have heard of the
methane hydrates in the deep waters off Florida. Do you also believe these
are continually being produced?
Again I am not promoting any theory, I just like discussing the
possibilities and enjoy your feedback.

"Rolf Martens" <rolf.martens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:FrpQe.145104$dP1.501240@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In article <EboQe.149$v83.22@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> ghelfert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
>>
>>
>>Why do you feel that because oil is abiotic that it can not be depleted?
>
> "Cannot be depleted" would be a too strong expression. The earth
> after all has only a finite mass.
>
> But vast amounts there must be, since oil naturally forms
> in the mantle as soon as carbon and hydrogen are present,
> and those two elements are among the most common in the
> universe. In the earth's mantle, they should be plentiful too.
>
> Also, read what an actual expert on the matter, Kenney, writes,
> as quoted in my "UNITE! Info #243en":
>
> "Correctly, one should better recognize that there exists no
> more reason to expect a future shortage of petroleum than of,
> say, mid-oceanic ridge basalt (MORB). [MORB is the rock
> characteristic of the loci of the deep suture, spreading
> zones on the mid-ocean floor where new oceanic crust is
> constantly being erupted from the mantle of the Earth.]
> Those predictive errors obtain specifically from neglect
> of several extremely large potential sources of petroleum,
> of which a few are set forth here.
> ....
> The potential that certain of the petroleum fields presently
> producing may be drawing pressured hydrocarbons from an open
> and active fault or conduit from the mantle, and therefore
> may never be depleted§ has been entirely neglected, as has
> the potential to develop non-depleting fields by deep drilling.
> (Mahfoud and Beck 1995)"
>
> NB, he talks about the possibility of finding an open
> or active conduit from the mantle - "no depletion then".
>
> The authors mentioned had a title for an article:
>
> [From the article's reference notes: Mahfoud, R. F. and
> J. N. Beck (1995). "Why the Middle East fields may produce
> oil forever." Offshore April 1995: 58-64, 106.]
>
> Rolf M.
>
>
>
>
>
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>>"Rolf Martens" <rolf.martens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:R_lQe.32599$d5.187542@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> In article <qZhQe.1354$4P5.770@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>> noway@xxxxxxxxx says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Because some very powerful forces in society want people to
>>>>> believe that oil (above all) is "scarce", which it might be
>>>>> reasonable to suppose if it had biological origins, and
>>>>> thus somehow accept the exorbitantly high oil price of today,
>>>>> in reality a result of some political manipulations and
>>>>> machinations.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The problem isn't that oil is "scarce", the problem is that cheap oil is
>>>>being used at about the same rate that it can be extracted from the
>>>>ground.
>>>>Very soon, there won't be enough oil to meet worldwide demands for it.
>>>>Alternate (read: more expensive) sources of oil can not be used. The
>>>>entire world economy depends on cheap oil. The entire world economy
>>>>will
>>>>collapse if cheap oil cannot be produced fast enough to meet demand. If
>>>>alternate sources need to be tapped, there might as well be NO oil left
>>>>on
>>>>the entire planet. The result will be the same as if the oil simply
>>>>ceased
>>>>to exist. The world economy will collapse. -Dave
>>>
>>> That's not true at all.
>>>
>>> Oil quite enough oil for all needs, for a long time in
>>> the future. can be produced at less that $15/bl, at
>>> the very most. This can be proved easily.
>>>
>>> And most likely, there are enormous amounts which
>>> can be produced at the "normal" Middle East or Nigeria
>>> cost of $2-3/bl too.
>>>
>>> The Saudi oil minister for instance said precisely that,
>>> last year - to the discomfort of the US government and
>>> some others who want to fleece us all.
>>>
>>> Rolf M.
>>>
>>
>>
>


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