Re: Edwin Black - Internal Combustion

Bob Eld wrote:
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Internal Combustion
- how corporations and government
addicted the world to oil and
derailed the alternatives.
by Edwin Black
http://www.internalcombustionbook.com/

Mr Black says that the the world economies
should move away from its dependence on oil
as a chief energy source. He says the first
step towards economic independency from oil
is to have(mandate?) all fleet-run vehicles
(e.g. US Government agencies, UPS,
Dunkin Donuts ) to switch to non oil energy
sources as hydrogen or electric.

Idiotic...Where is the hydrogen supposed to come from? Where does the
electricity come from? This bone head should think through the total package
including the sources of energy and their effects on the environment, costs,
availability, etc. Instead of the government mandating things that would do
little but cost us all dearly, the government should fund research and
promote projects to develop alternative energy. Furthermore, it must be
true alternative energy not just a new form of existing energy like turning
natural gas into hydrogen. Also, the government should stop promoting
petroleum and giving large unnecessary tax breaks to oil companies. We, the
people should stop promoting and electing oil executives to high positions
in government. The recent crop of war mongering, oil friendly politicians
have not helped the situation one bit.

Excuse me... who is the idiotic bonehead? Nowhere did Edwin Black
advocate a government fleet mandate except as already legislated by law
under EPACT. In fact, Black's "Green Fleet Initiative" advocates
private, commercial and corporate fleets convert to alt fuels, such as
CNG, plug-in electric, biofuel, sugar cane ethanol and hydrogen using
free market forces first and foremost. There will be no mass production
of such cars without mass purchasing via free market fleet acquisition.
For specifics, see the syndicated columns at
http://www.internalcombustionbook.com/articles.php. As for where the
hydrogen is? Most students of this field know that the hydrogen supply
companies already ship enough hydrogen in pipelines and via truck each
day to fuel a milllion hydrogen cars. Of course, they do. Hydrogen is
the key ingredient in making unleaded gasoline. Other sources of
hydrogen come from plain old water elctrolyzed by free sunlight as in
the Las Vegas fleet array now under way, or reformed cng or oven gas as
in the Home Energy Station by Plug Power which will be part of the
Honda Hydrogen car in 2008 (or the GM Sequel version in 2007), or from
bacteria-created hydrogen, a process now being accelerated to
industrial levels. The rest of the comment about government subsidies,
public policy, tax breaks and so forth was not as boneheaded, but
rather quite astute.

.

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