Re: California spot energy price: $99 MWhr

On Apr 12, 10:17 am, dave.walt...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Apr 12, 5:45 am, bradg...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:





On Apr 11, 3:22 pm, dave.walt...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Most big projects in the US (and around the world) that have helped
develop the US (and world wide) have been with gov't initiated tax-
payer dollars, be it Lake Mead to the levees in California to the
railroads, interstate hwys, the Tennessee Valley Authority, you name
it. Your argument is a-historical. You bizarro world view of "hitler"
and "jews" knows no parallel universe I'm familiar with.

David

In that case, you're living within Hitler's cozy world of government
domination over most everything that matters, and you should expect to
pay more, lots more, and make due with less of just about everything
that matters, that is unless you're one of those insiders taking as
much loot and getting all the inside benefits to boot.

Hitler is only an extension of big capital to workers revolution and
the threat of "communism". Gov't preceeded Hitler and followed him.
The Germans today live under a 'gov't', you silly anarchist views
notwithstanding.

Would a 1:1 government be sufficient? (because that's where we're
headed)

Anything government can accomplish, privately can be accomplished at a
tenth the cost.

LIke?

Of course the takings of land for the public good is somewhat of a
government specialty.

Been done for 300 years. It's why there is an Interstate highway
system, a grid, food on the table, life.

Government is why we still do not have a proper energy grid.

Sorry? The Grid is privately owned, but *regulated*.

Government is why we're not 50% nuclear and more efficient than
France.

But Government is WHY the French have 80% nuclear. ZERO private money.
They "Took from private industry and made it public". Good, they
should do that here. It's an example for the world.

Government is why we're not 25+% solar pv, solar stirling and wind
powered.

Sorry? Not enough private money invested? Hmm...what do you propose
and how has "gov't" stopped this?

Government is also why we're still not utilizing tidal energy.

IT is?There are gov't laws AGAINST this? Where? Cite one?

Government is why we're flooded out of our homes and commercial
property.

Gov't incompetence. There would be ZERO flood control without
gov't...there are and never have been and never will be non-
governmental flood control. No money in it.

Government is why Ross dam wasn't 50 foot higher (doubling the stored
energy worth)

Have no idea what you are talking about . Who build this dam in the
first place???

Government is why we're at war (again) because of what government
caused in the first place.

Zzzzzzzz.
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Obviously you're going all out for the 1:1 ratio of having a
government worker with full benefits per each nongovenment soul, as
well as on behalf of promoting your $1/kwhr, and lo and behold we'd
still be having to make due with that piss poor grid and nothing all
that viable on the books that might otherwise put the slightest dent
in the deep pockets of your good buddy big-energy and even bigger
government friends.

Playing word games and of excluding evidence is obviously the limit of
your supposed expertise, of which even Hitler was actually a better
word and world domination game player. Obviously you and others of
your born-again remorseless kind voted for our resident LLPOF
warlord(GW Bush), so no wonder we're at war with most anyone getting
in our way of taking their energy.

BTW; how much clean and affordable energy did you manage to put on
that grid today?
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Brad Guth

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