Re: Uranium availability

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:54:02 -0400, "daestrom"
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:09:17 -0400, "daestrom"
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:38:36 -0400, "daestrom"
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:37:04 -0400, "daestrom"
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 12:04:27 -0400, "daestrom"
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Care to explain how the 'plant capacity factor' for the median US nuc
is
so
much higher then your made up terminology?? If a plant's capacity
factor
for a two year run of the median plant is 93%, how can it's
duty-factor*production-factor be only .855 ??

Because you contrived up your own facts and figures..

Now for SOME HARD FACTS nothing like a hard
dose of the truth to interject into a debate.


http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epat1p1.html
Net generation by source..
(Thousand megawatt hours.)


2004.. 788,528

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epa/epat2p2.html

Table 2.2. Existing Capacity by Energy Source, 2005
(Megawatts)


Nuclear
Energy Source
Nuclear

Number of Generators
104

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
****Note this number ****



Generator Name plate capacity
105,585

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ GENERATOR NAME PLATE (from my post)

Net Summer Capacity
99,988
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NET SUMMER CAPACITY (from my post)


Net Winter Capacity
101,524
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NET WINTER CAPACITY (from my post)


==== calculations ======

Name plate capacity
105,585MW * 366 days (2004 leap year) * 24 == 927,459 (theoretical
thousand megawatt hours.)

788,528 / 927,459 == 85.0% (actual 2004 production verses rated name
plate. )

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What's this 788,528.. (from my post)..



Same calculations for 2005..
781,986 / 924,925 == 84.5% (actual 2005 production verses rated name
plate. )


Time to eat crow.. Mr. Daestrom..

Now, let's go back to the www.eia.doe.gov web site that Mr. Keating is so
fond of and look at the data again.

Gee, it seems that
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/nuc_generation/usreactors2004.xls
doesn't agree with his quotation. The EIA has numbers of 788,528,387 MW-hrs

Doesn't agree????
My post&link matches actual production to less than 0.0001%..


for 2004, and an installed capacity for the 104 licensed reactors of 99,628
MW. For an 'average' capacity factor of 90.1%

Bzzzt... As Usual You're WRONG... I used GENERATOR NAME PLATE
capacity. The calculations were clearly spelled out.

Not NET summer capacity.. nor NET winter capacity.. nor NET any
other time.

Which I pointed out previously, using NET production factor is NOT a
valid measurement when used to comparing energy production factors
with other intermittent production technologies. (Which consume
almost nothing.)

P.S.. NET == Production - Consumption (which is significant)..

What other fudge figures are you going to throw in??

The sad fact is that you, keep pushing another dying technology that
will never pay for itself without massive subsidies and cost shifting.

We're long overdue me we dumped the risky technologies into the waste
bin and shifted to renewables. The N-risk is clearly spelled out in
nearly every homeowners or automobile insurance policy.. Nuclear
incidents and contamination are NOT covered!!!!
.

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