Re: Amazing New Air Car - It's NOT About the Air!
- From: BradGuth <bradguth@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:43:46 -0800 (PST)
On Jan 30, 2:01 am, Roger Thorpe <myinitial.mysrn...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
BradGuthwrote:
On Jan 29, 2:07 am, Roger Thorpe <myinitial.mysrn...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
BradGuthwrote:
BTW, a stirling engine is actually very thermal cycle efficient,
although a one cycle internal combustion engine that's running on h2o2
and a little of whatever fossil/synfuel is a whole lot better, and at
zero NOx to boot.
- Brad Guth
Forgive me if this sounds disingenuous, but what exactly is a "one cycle
IC engine"?
Inject h2o2 and also inject a little of whatever fossil/synfuel into
the combustion chamber of a physically small radial power turbine (of
ceramics might perform rather nicely in this application), as such is
just an example of a one cycle IC, although you could still use
pistons or best to apply rotary vanes.
There's no atmospheric intake cycle.
There's no atmosphere compression cycle.
There's also no dedicated exhaust cycle.
That leaves us with all but one thermal expansion cycle for
accomplishing and/or extracting whatever torque applied work. I do
believe it's called physics duh-101.
OK, it's a rocket. If you want to put a turbine behind it then you'll
have to use some material that will survive the stoichiometric flame
temperature or use a something like water injection to bring it down
since you're not allowing air into the engine. It might work.
Na while we're at it where does the energy to make Hydrogen Peroxide
come from, or do you have peroxide wells over there?
Silly naysay boy (Roger Thorpe), as this fluid of h2o2 comes from a
surplus cache of all those terawatts of clean and renewable energy,
that's technically doable as of more than a few decades ago. How many
spare/surplus terawatts (unrelated to fossil or nuclear energy) would
you and others of your naysay kind like?
. - Brad Guth
I'm not sure if we're living on the same planet if yours has surplus
renewable energy that could be used to make an oxidant like that when
there's so much oxygen available for more conventional combustion. The
renewable energy systems that we have now, and in the forseeable future
will be expensive, and energy will be used with care.
(My planet also has a problem with loonies and terrorists, and a free
supply of H2O2 would make life a bit more difficult for the rest of us.)
As an engineer working in the field of energy I would say that a
technology is only interesting if:
It is a more efficient use of primary energy.
Or
It is cheaper and easier to make.
Or
It does something new and useful.
I can't see that what you propose satisfies any of those criteria you
might just find a military or aerospace application.
Roger Thorpe
Your profound naysayism and can't-do-anything that's new and improved
mindset is noted. In that case you'll have to become good at
surviving global warming and WWIII.
BTW, what's the cost or value of salvaging Earth's environment, not to
mention avoiding WWIII?
What if tomorrow all fossil fuel simply wasn't available at any price,
as is the case in many worldly places as is?
What if the human caused soot of CO2 and NOx are the primary cause of
trauma to our environment?
BTW, a small and mostly ceramic engine that runs squeaky clean on h2o2
and a little of whatever fossil/synfuel, that which one could easily
hold in one hand, is all of what the GM Volt or Hybrid Hummer would
ever require.
BTW No.2, how exactly would a relatively cheap supply of h2o2 cause
problems for your planet of mostly faith-based bigots?
.. - Brad Guth
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