Re: Life on Mars....and the Election!
From: jwk (jwkinraleigh_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/12/04
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Date: 11 Jul 2004 22:16:25 -0700
simberg.interglobal@org.trash (Rand Simberg) wrote in message news:<4166d79c.235546708@news.west.earthlink.net>...
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:50:26 -0600, in a place far, far away, quibbler
> <quibbler247@yahoo.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
> way as to indicate that:
>
> >> >> ...anything that takes people's minds off the campaign helps Kerry.
> >> >> He does much better in the polls when people forget about him. His
> >> >> smartest campaign strategy would be to just lay low until November,
> >> >> since "an unnamed Democrat" still outpolls him (and Bush).
> >> >
> >> >You might want to look at current data. I've seen no evidence that an
> >> >"unnamed Democrat" still outpolls Kerry.
> >>
> >> That's because they're no longer polling on that question
> >
> >Then why did you say that this unnamed Democrat *still* outpolls him?
> >How do you know that if they aren't *still* asking the question?
>
> I don't know it. I consider it a safe presumption.
>
> >Do you
> >really have any figures or are you just trying to hold Kerry to some
> >ridiculous standard of absolute perfection?
>
> I only know that Kerry is not very likeable, even to his supporters.
> When canvassing for votes, the message is always anti-Bush, not
> pro-Kerry.
>
> >, now that
> >> Kerry is the presumptive nominee. But it's clear that there's no
> >> enthusiasm for Kerry even among the faithful, other than his perceived
> >> ability to topple Bush. A generic Democrat would surely be more
> >> popular.
> >>
> >> >Kerry is ahead of Bush
> >> >right now according to Gallup, Rasmussen, MSNBC and others.
> >>
> >> What relevance does this have to anything I wrote?
> >
> >Because it's evidence that Kerry is popular both in his own right as
> >well as when compared to people like Bush.
>
> I wasn't comparing Kerry to Bush.
>
> >That casts doubt on your
> >suggestion that there's no enthusiasm for him. In fact there is plenty
> >of enthusiasm for him. He's pulling in money at a record pace
>
> Exactly, so that Bush can be defeated.
>
> >and his
> >selection of Edwards has also bolstered his popularity.
>
> No, it's bolstered the popularity of the ticket, which was exactly the
> intent of the choice--to put out someone with more charisma and charm
> than Kerry.
>
> >I highly doubt
> >that an unnamed democrat would outpoll him, though you're free to
> >provide actual evidence that this is the case.
>
> You may doubt if you wish. I hardly see how it matters what you
> believe or doubt.
This seems to be a debate between quibbler and "twister". Keep
twisting away; maybe you can eventually make something you said look
honest.
jwk
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