Re: Good science and evidence? Lot of crap!

From: Jonathan (j0nathan_at_home.net)
Date: 08/23/04 

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:57:25 -0400

"Ed Conrad" <edconrad@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ov2hi09le57tnivdu4dopqbt43f0n9mmah@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> On 2 May 2001 18:12:35 -0400, "Gregg" <cybertigger1@msn.com> wrote
> to talk.origins. My reply is better late than never.
> >
> > evolution is backed up by plenty of good science and evidence,
> >
> Hardly the case!

Hello Ed, my hobby is the mathematics of evolution. I can assure
you evolution is a tangible and pervasive property of the
universe. In fact, all organization in the universe, material
or living, owes it's existence to the tendencies of evolutionary
forces.

The 'integral' of evolutionary mathematics is found in random
boolean networks. A nice intro is here.

An Introduction to Complex Systems
Torsten Reil, Department of Zoology, University of Oxford
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~quee0818/complexity/complexity.html

The basic idea is that given enough complexity and interaction
any system will self-organize. It does so spontaneously, and
this tendency to organize and adapt is now shown mathematically
to be the final probable state of any complex dynamic system
living or otherwise.

The utter simplicity of evolution, and the universe, is easy
to see. The second law provides increasing complexity
and interaction by breaking things down into smaller
units. The increasing variability and interaction that
results are the driving forces for self-organization and
evolution. This tentative 'fourth law' of thermodynamics
provides symmetry with the second.

A nice review of the major topics of the mathematics
of evolution is here.

Self-Organizing Systems (SOS) FAQ
http://www.calresco.org/sos/sosfaq.htm

An online book being taught at the graduate level at
MIT is here. It explains this new science quite
thoroughly. It's a science so new most in this
ng haven't even heard of it, let alone understand
it.

DYNAMICS OF COMPLEX SYSTEMS
http://www.necsi.org/publications/dcs/

Once you've read through this stuff and understand
it, you'll be able to call classical science a crock, and
be able to prove it. You have no idea just how 'Dark Age'
much of the scientific world is even today.

If you wish to truly see and denounce the stunning
level of ignorance in classical science
this new science is for you.

It also shows you a number of neat tricks, like
how to play the stock market for instance. Makes
such things child's play once one understands the
nuts and bolts of system dynamics.

Take a good look at the stock chart of the company
I sold today, wsii. When are the variables 'complex'?
When is the system at the edge of chaos? What pattern
defines a static pre-image vs a chaotic pre-image?

What system dynamics causes the universal behavior
of self-organization? A universal behavior where the hidden
inward mechanisms become irrelevant. Once you understand
these concepts you'll see them everywhere
...everywhere.

And you'll know their truth.

Jonathan

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> An insult to science is really what it is.
> Accompanied by the fact that it has NO physical evidence --.
> Zilch! -- to prove man has any evolutionary link whatsoever
> to some (any) preshistoric animal.
> >
> Don't you ever wonder, Gregg, how the decent, honest
> conscientious scientists in other fields must feel about
> this mockery of scientific integrity that has long been perpetratred
> by this cast of vested-interest boo-birds.
> >
> Every time they face true facts and are confronted with physical
> evidence, they boo -- then tell one of their 1,000,000 bagfuls of lies
> >
> =========================================
> <
> > ===========================================
> >
> > MAN AS OLD AS COAL
> > Petrified Bones, Teeth and Soft Organs
> > (Some Human) Found Between Coal Veins
> ><
> > ===========================================
> >>
> >> OLDEST HUMAN SKULL EVER FOUND <
> >> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z11calv.jpg
> >> http://www.edconrad.com/images/krogwskull.jpg
> >>
> >Wilton Krogman, one of the world's foremost experts
> >on human anatomy, holds what he had identified as
> >a petrified human calvarium, a skull with the eye
> >sockets broken off, that was discovered between
> >Pennsylvania's anthracite veins. He is shown at his
> >desk at the Cooper Clinic in Lancaster, Pa., where
> >moments later he beckoned a colleague -- a medical
> >doctor -- to examine "the oldest human skull ever
> >found."
> ><
> >A CATscan was performed on this specimen with
> >favorable results.
> ><
> >> http://www.edconrad.com/images/catcalv.jpg
> ><
> >Meanwhile, Haversian canals were identified in the
> >cell structue, the tell-tale sign of bone. And dried
> >blood was found on the specimen during testing at
> >American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va.
> ><
> >This is the official report from AML which had
> >erformed Calculus Analysis by Crystallography.
> >The final report, dated April 21, 2000, was issued
> >by Dr. Nathan Sherman, director of laboratories.
> >
> >> "The specimen consists of 1 irregularly
> >> shaped, brown calculus weighing less
> >> than 0.0010 grams and measuring 1X1X0.5
> >> mm. No nidus is observed. The calculi
> >> indicates a composition of dried blood
> >> intermingled with a few small crystals
> >> resembling calcium oxalate dihydrate."
> >>
> >> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z12calv.jpg
> >>
> >> http://www.edconrad.com/images/z13cav.jpg
> >> =============================================
> >>
> >> OTHER PETRIFIED BONES, TEETH AND
> >> SOFT ORGANS FOUND BETWEEN COAL VEINS <
> >>Here'sa petrified human femur still embedded in slate.
> >>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/z8femur.jpg
> >><
> >>Here's a petrified human finger, with fingernail:
> >>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-008S.JPG
> >>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/FINGER/MVC-011S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here's a petrified human toe (with toe nail), found only
> >>10-15 feet from the petrified finger.
> >>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-017S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here are the petrified human finger and the petrified
> >>human toe shown together.
> >>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Au29/MVC-016S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here's the specimen that Krogman identified as a tibia
> >>It contains Haversian canals, proof of bone, and dried
> >>blood was found on it during testing at American Medical
> >>Laboratories. This is the specimen that was fraudulently
> >>tested by Andrew MacRae who produced microscopic photos
> >>of the cell structure of a rock on the false pretext
> >>that he was showing the cell structure of this specimen.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/newtibia.jpg
> >><
> >>This is the boulder containing the complete human skull.
> >>Testing has confirmed the presence of Haversian canals
> >> and American Medical Laboratories discovered it contains
> >>dried blood.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/skullb.jpg
> >><
> >>Here's a petrified human mandible (frontal).
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix5/MVC-002S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here's a portion of a human mandible (side).
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Bones/MVC-006S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here's a giant petrified tooth.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/1tooth.jpg
> >><
> >>Here's a petrified dinosaur foot still embedded in slate.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Newpix3/z3dino.jpg
> >><
> >>Here's a petrified fetus of some large animal.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Petrified/MVC-013F.JPG
> >><
> >>Here's another petrified fetus, still embedded in slate.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Day/MVC-005S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here are several views of portion of a giant prehistoric
> >>scorpion identified as such by Krogman.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-001S.JPG
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-010S.JPG
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Scorpion/MVC-020S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here's a photo of the same portion of a petrified giant
> >>scorpion -- found 22 years ago -- alongside one found
> >>weeks ago.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/SCORPIONS/MVC-039S.JPG
> >><
> >>Here are two views of a piece of wood that appears to have
> >>been handcarved for use as a tool or a weapon.
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-003S.JPG
> >>>> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Tool/MVC-005S.JPG
> > =====================================================
> >
> LATEST DISCOVERIES: NEW Petrified Human Finger, Thumb
> <
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/O11/MVC-038S.JPG
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/edconrad/O11/MVC-037S.JPG
> >
>
>
>

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