Re: Harvard Pres: Women Lack Ability In Math, Sciences

From: George (george_at_wtfiswrongwithyou.com)
Date: 01/18/05 

Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:30:12 GMT

"Philip Lewis" <nottelling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "George" <george@wtfiswrongwithyou.com> wrote in message
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>> "Philip Lewis" <nottelling@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Way Back Jack" <nospam@nospam.org> wrote in message
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>>>>> Geez, that's what the old timers said before it became
>>>>> politically-incorrect to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bro
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>>>> Gee, my wife graduated cum laud with a double B.S. in geology and
>>>> mathematics.
>>> So your wife is ALL WOMEN - well thats a 'convincing' argument. Next comes a
>>> feminist who says 'ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS AND THATS ALL THEY ARE' - after all
>>> said feminist need only to point to ONE MAN to prove her case using your
>>> 'logic'!
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
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>> The Harvard professor said "women lack natural ability in some fields".
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> He said a lot more than that but YOU in common with those who are seeking to
> repress any scientific findings which do not support their prejudice jump on
> out of context 'quotes' as if that was the whole argument that was made - for
> example in the same article it is reported ""It's possible I made some
> reference to innate differences," he said.He said people "would prefer to
> believe" that the differences in
> performance between the sexes are due to social factors, "but these are things
> that need to be studied." Even so if it is TRUE (and there is a question about
> that for we are depending on absolute accuracy in reporting here!) that he
> made those remarks (i.e. "women lack natural ability in some fields". ) then
> in your response it is clear that you have taken the most extreme and
> ridiculous meaning of that phrase in your attempts to 'debunk' it. For when we
> say (talking about the sexes in the mass or plural level) there are
> differences in men and womens 'spatial abilities' it is not meant to mean that
> EVERY single mam has different or superior spatial skills to every single
> woman. that is why your anecdotal example is completely worthless in the
> context of this discussion
>
> Phil

He said what he said. I offer no apologies or excuses for my response. I know
many women whe are successful scientists and mathematicians, and who are quite
brilliant at what they do. If he (or you, for that matter) has a problem with
women, perhaps he should try to understand them instead of making off-the-wall
stupid remarks that he cannot scientifically or socially justify.

Oh, and please define "mam" in the context of your post, above.

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