Re: Harvard Pres: Women Lack Ability In Math, Sciences

From: Jo Schaper (joschapern4ospam_at_2socketdot.no5net)
Date: 01/19/05


Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:41:16 -0600

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
> I would rather these idiots stop focusing on sex head counts
> and address the real problem, namely none of the younger generation
> is getting the adequate science and math education. Count the
> grads over all science and math programs; subtract non-US citizens.

Agreed. I realize in K-12, there are all ranges of programs, but the
aversion to math, and ignorance of basic earth science for my students
in Geo 101 lab a few years ago was an eye-opener. And these were the
kids who had made it to college at a school which didn't admit all
comers. They are calculator dependent, and memorized-fact poor. (It was
scary that at post-40, I was the only person in a calc class besides the
teacher who knew how far away the moon was, and how fast light travels
without looking it up.) I understand this is because they were educated
with 'concepts' instead of rote learning, being told they could look it
up if they ever needed the info. But most didn't know where to look it
up. My nevvy are also much less literate--read less and they don't write
well at all for their age. But they are still being praised as being the
cream of the crop, just below extraordinarily gifted. I'd hate to see
their classmates.

>
> I just found out that my nephew was advised by his school counselors
> to not take algebra. This is a kid who has always talked about
> going into science or computers.

If your brother or sister isn't interested in overriding the school's
decision (you could talk with them) you could always give your nephew a
computer algebra program, or one of the many 'self-help' books in math
you can find in community college bookstores. I just donated all my
"Calculus for Dummies" supplementary books to my 14 year old nephew, who
  is now in algebra, and anticipates taking calc his senior year. He's
not into science, but wants to be a baseball agent-- you know, the
people who negotiate the multimillion dollar contracts, and is talking
about studying math or economics. I take my 10 year old niece to rock
and gem shows, and get her geology books--which she loves.
If the 12 year old needs help with school science projects, we're into
that, too. It just takes an adult to take an interest, and it's amazing
the difference you can make, even if the school or the parents are not
cooperative. (I hope your brother or sister will fight the school for
the kid, too, if he really wants this path).



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