Re: Another sort of expansion?

geraldkelleher_at_hotmail.com
Date: 02/18/05 

Date: 18 Feb 2005 08:39:02 -0800

don findlay wrote:
> So why should I spend money on subscriptions to keep up with the
> game-playing 'controversies' that supports others' career
advancement?
> Are they offering something of the science, do you think, or just
> something to talk about next time in the club?
>
> Are you actually asking people to think about this, Jo? Then they'd
do
> well to get a bit of practice in by dealing with what they're
standing
> on and can get at first, before tackling that one. Before exapansion
> they would need to consider the obvious extrapolation. If the Earth
> can manifest 'indigestion', why not the.....?

The idea that 'space' has a geometry originates from the early 20th
century concepts based on a misinterpretation of Newton's original use
of the relative/absolute space idea.Before Newton there was no such
thing as absolute and relative space there was only the illusions of
celestial motions we see from Earth and the actual motions of celestial
bodies.

So basically Newton got the ball rolling on framehopping by coming up
with the idea that the sun around the earth is just as valid as the
earth around the sun thereby undoing the great insights of Copernicus
and Kepler and the refinements based on the planet's motion around the
Sun.

"PHÆNOMENON IV.
That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun."

http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm

In the early 20th century they decided to do away with the astronomical
method altogether (whereas Newton just went from pure astronomical
heliocentricity to qausi-geocentricity) and determined that every
observer's astronomical view is valid.

The original poster of this thread could simply recognise that the
local Milky Way stars are spinning against the remaining galaxies and
locally it would leave us with the illusion that the visible objects in
the cosmos are moving away from our center much as all the local stars
seem to pivot about the North star.

In other words,it is embarrasing that theorists make no allowances for
the spinning Milky Way and our participation in that spinning.

She can on the other hand listen the the utter nonsense of expanding
space and every valid point is the center of the universe.

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