Re: Runaway Global Warming Possible!

From: Ian St. John (istjohn_at_noemail.usa)
Date: 03/08/05


Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 22:02:06 -0500

Fred J. McCall wrote:
> lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>
>> In article <425bf9a3.1100261201@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>,
>> simberg.interglobal@org.trash (Rand Simberg) wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:19:40 GMT, in a place far, far away, Jonathan
>>> Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> made the phosphor on my monitor glow
>>> in such a way as to indicate that:
>>>
>>>> they purposefully intended to convey a
>>>> false sense of certainty when they knew better.
>>>
>>>> To me, that qualifies as lying.
>>>
>>> To me, it qualifies as stating exactly what they knew, no more and
>>> no less. MI6 continues to stand by the claim.
>>
>> So how about the 14 instances I posted when Bush came right out and
>> said Saddam had WMD? No "the British say" kind of fudging; 14 times.
>
> That's what pretty much every intelligence agency in the world (and
> many of Saddam's own generals) were convinced was the case.

No. There was no general consensus as to Iraq having massive stockpiles of
WMDs. In fact, most nations trusted the reporst from the U.N. which stated
that their were neither stockpiles, nor the capacity to build WMDs. They
were skeptical of the U.S. and Britains insistence that they 'knew better'
because nothing they could find backed up the claims.

>
> Remember France's warning to Iraq not to use chemical weapons on US
> troops or France would join the invasion? Or is your position that
> they were merely being blowhards because "everybody knew" there were
> no chemical weapons?

Actually, this is crap. France was notably against the invasion on any
terms. Hence the program of insults to the french that became the Bushs main
strategy in Europe.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/2748025.stm



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