Re: The 'Peak Oil' Put on - the world IS NOT running out of oil
- From: alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Alan)
- Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 23:01 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
In article <11p6panlnma5b7f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
joschapern4ospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Jo Schaper) wrote:
> hubbca2003@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Jo Schaper wrote:
> >
> >>hubbca2003@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I hear Alaska is such a big oil field and so vast that the amount of
> >>>oil it contains is more than Saudi Arabia, but this information is
> >>>suppressed.
> >>>
> >>>The Energy Non-Crisis
> >>>by Lindsey Williams (free online book)
> >>>http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html
> >>>Lindsey Williams is a minister of religion who spent 2-1/2 years in
> >>>Alaska counselling the workers on the oil pipeline.
> >>
> >>Theology and geology both have 6 letters in common, but that's about it.
> >>
> >> This book tells a
> >>
> >>>story of government interference and bureaucracy going out of its way
> >>>to try and stop the oil pipeline - but why?
> >>>He blows the lid off the fake environmental movement, government
> >>>regulations and bureaucracy and the hidden agenda to bankrupt the oil
> >>>companies.
>
> 1. The environmental movement is not 'fake'. Wacky sometimes, extreme at
> times, but most people know if we don't take care of the air, water,
> soil and limited resources like minerals, the human race is toast.
> Period. This was taught in schools long before there was any so-called
> environmental movement. Only believers in supernatural miracles are so
> dim as to think that people aren't native to the planet, and that a
> narrow range of resource conditions are required for the species'
> survival. We can beome dinosaurs very fast if we don't use the only
> superior thing we have--our brains.
>
>
> >>>There is enough oil in Alaska to US requirements for 200 years at
> >>>growing trends, more oil than currently exists in Saudi Arabia.
> >>>However, this knowledge is suppressed by vested interests and the
> >>>desire to manufacture a myth of oil scarcity.
>
> Just who are these 'vested interests'? The 'myth of oil scarcity' is
> simply non-existent to anyone who understands basic economics.
> I have heard no one say we are running out of oil in the near future.
> Cheap oil, yes. And that is understandable given the market influences
> on the resource.
>
> >>
> >>Prove it. Saying doesn't make it so.
> >
> >
> > Jo, to make a long story short, and it took me a while to get round to
> > reading the book, but the book explains how the cost of the Alaska
> > pipeline was initially estimated to cost $600 million but blew out to
> > $12 billion due to government regulations and interference.
>
> I am amongst those geos who think we can easily walk a middle ground
> between rape and pillage extraction, and not disturbing a blade of grass
> anywhere. There is plenty of middle room between the extremes. But the
> only way to do that under the current system is to have 'the people' (in
> the name of government) look out for their own best interests, against
> the high profit short-sighted greedy (usually businssmen with dollar
> signs for eyes)who never learned not to steal, or to clean up their mess
> as they go.
>
>
> The writer
> > says he slowly became aware of a plot to bankrupt the project. He also
> > says that the company was only allowed to mine one 100 acre square area
> > but that there are very many more areas which have proven oil deposits
> > which nobody is allowed to mine.
>
> These people are playing for keepsies. No secret there. But you have not
> identified any of the players on either side.
>
> >
> > I don't know how a person actually proves such things, but I generally
> > rely on the balance of probabilities and check them off against known
> > facts. For instance, they say we have an oil crisis, and they say that
> > oil is a fossil fuel. But are these things really true?
>
> The only oil crisis is one of 'cheap oil'. Get it?
> Upon closer examination, 'oil' is often used as shorthand for liquid
> hydrocarbons. Some people are trying to turn all of organic chemistry
> into a sound bite. And not all organic (carbon) chemistry necessarily
> has a biological origin. Some people need to have paid more attention in
> high school, I think. It sounds like there is some sloppy chemistry
> going on here, in an attempt to scare the former kids who skipped Chem
> 1. This is not 'new' news.
>
> >
> > Things I have read about include -
> > 1. Harold Holt being murdered because he was going to go ahead with
> > developing nuclear energy plants for use in industry and regenerate the
> > economy. http://www.haroldholt.net
> > That's not to say that this theory is true, but its as good a theory as
> > any and there are some credible people behind it.
>
> This has little to do with the oil crisis. Who are these 'conspiratists'?
> >
> > 2. Nuclear energy can now be processed where the waste is broken down
> > in a very short time, not the thousands of years we are told which is a
> > scare campaign.
>
> Explain this. I would think that people would realize that excessuve
> radionuclides are not good for people. (My mother died of leukemia,
> brought on by 'medical' radiation. I'm not for nukes until they solve
> the waste problem. And I bet whomever solves it will get a Nobel Prize
> at least. Remember, we've only really been playing with radioactivity
> for 130 years or so).
> >
> > 3. Free energy has been developed since Tesla's time and before, but is
> > kept quiet. Tesla made a lot of patents (around 700?) only a few of
> > which we know. After his death all his papers and journals were rounded
> > up by the CIA and confiscated. Much of his theories is classified for
> > reasons of national security.
>
> Edison won and Tesla lost. Get over it. Tesla was simultaneously a
> genius and a quack. If there are 700 patents, they are on file in the
> Patent Office. Or they aren't patents. Tesla died almost destitute, and
> his papers were deported to a nephew, and eventually housed in Belgrade.
> Hardly a CIA job.
>
> >
> > 4. Scarcity increases price and OPEC controls production to keep prices
> > at a certain level.
>
> So? This has been the case since the founding of OPEC.
> >
> > 5. Apparently Russia has developed the technology to find and mine oil
> > with a new oil science developed since 1951.
>
> If so, why, after the fall of the Soviet Union, did all the major US and
> western oil companies rush to move into the former USSR? Would not have
> been the case if the Soviet oil system was extremely successful.
>
> >
> > 6. I think the nature of oil has been deliberately represented ie, that
> > it is a fossil fuel.
>
> See? Even you just said it is a fossil fuel.
When I went to South Africa, I ended up living in this dump in the Orange Free
State, with the name of Sasolburg. There was only one reason for Sasolburg's
existence and that was because the company SASOL made oil from coal.
You can look it up if you want to. If oil is a fossil fuel how could they
possibly make it from coal?
Alan
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/enigma.html
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
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