Re: ...It's What We'll be Using Against the Iranians
- From: alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Alan)
- Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:49 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
In article <pan.2006.01.16.01.02.20.36166@xxxxxxxxxxx>, egroents@xxxxxxxxxxx
(Eduard Groenstein) wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:26:31 -0500, jonathan wrote:
>
>
> > China is coming apart at the seams. It's all so predictable. A rigid and
> > repressive central govt that's one large riot away from shattering like
> > peanut brittle.
>
> The flakiest element of the Chinese system is the banking system. If that
> breaks so does yours.
>
> > And the US is selling them the rope that'll hang those communists one
> > contract at a time. It's simple really, you have a govt that is as
> > large and rigid as they come. Against a people and an economy that is
> > rapidly changing and growing in strength. The two camps drift farther
> > apart every day simply due to the unchanging character of their politcal
> > system. So increasing stress is inevitable.
>
> Nobody wants to buy rope from a dishonest trader. Heck, you sold your own
> people WMD rope which turned out to be counterfeit.
>
> The Chinese are selling all of us rope (and it is good cheap rope).
>
> > Which will shatter first? People adapt, the govt cannot. The CCP is
> > doomed, it's an absolute mathematical certainty. I'd bet money the CCP
> > won't make it to the next decade, the Beijing Olympics should highlight
> > the absurdity of Chinese communisim and leave no doubt as to necessity
> > of it's destruction.
>
> Who cares of the CCP doesn't make it. There will still be a ruling junta
> and it won't be the USA.
>
> > Don't you think the US is fully aware that capitalism and communism
> > cannot coexist? And that capitalism is relentless in finding it's way
> > around or through any obstacles?
> >
> >
> Using the terms "US" and awareness together in the same sentence doesn't
> make any sense. If however you are talking about the American "collective
> unconscious" then you might have a point.
>
> > America will always win in the end.
>
> You have watched too many John Wayne movies. As I said in my earlier post,
> you ought to get out more.
He should at least broaden his reading material. I especially liked this one:
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=47668
Failing in all areas; the United States of America is a laughing stock.
Northern Californian psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman writes: Imagine how the US
must look from other countries! We are bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan, and
being driven out. If the point of the Iraq invasion was to use their oil, it is
a failure, as sabotage has actually lowered the output of Iraqi oil.
We are unable to enforce our will abroad, despite having a military that is more
powerful than the next 20 countries combined.
Our long time allies are turning against us. Russia is aligning with Syria and
Iran, so that nuking one of those countries could easily lead to all out nuclear
war.
We have lost control of Latin America, which is, country by country, freeing
itself from the grip of the IMF, NAFTA, and the other US-controlled financial
institutions that have kept them in deep debt for so long.
And regarding Russia, and China, he really ought to read this:
http://lordcerneabbas.blogspot.com/2006/01/russias-ss-27-makes-bushs-missile.htm
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Russia's SS-27 Makes Bush's Missile Defense A Fantasy
By Charles Assisi - The Times of India - 1-15-6
On November 2, a rather staid little story appeared on a ticker powered by
Itar-Tass, a Russian News Agency. The tone was decidedly Russian-matter-of-fact
and shorn of all hyperbole. It reported the test launch of a ballistic missile
called the Topol RS 12 at 8:10 pm Moscow time. After taking off from the
Kapustny Yar test range in the Astrakhan region, it hit the intended target at
Balkhash in Kazakhstan at 8:34-24 minutes later.
"The target was precisely hit," said the report, quoting a top-ranking official
from the Russian armed forces.
In conclusion, Itar-Tass added some jargon that sounded like regulation copy to
most people tracking defence:
"The advanced Topol missile has three cruise engines and can develop hypersonic
speed. The high thrust-to-weight ratio allows the warhead to manoeuvre on the
trajectory and pass through a dense air defence system."
At that time, not many defence analysts thought much of the report. After all,
Kapustny Yar, located on the banks of the Volga river, 75 miles east of
Volgograd (formerly Stalingrad), had gone to the dogs and was infrequently used.
Whenever the base was lucky to see some action, all it witnessed was small
payloads.
But what the mainstream media missed was analysed in great detail on internet
discussion boards. For starters, something about the time mentioned in the
report sounded astounding.
For anything to travel from Kapustny to Balkash in 24 minutes, it had to fly at
a speed of three miles a second. That's 180 miles a minute or 10,800 miles an
hour.
If the reports were indeed true, the Topol RS 12 or the Topol SS 27, as it is
known in military circles around the world, had to be the fastest thing man has
ever seen. And if you will for a moment excuse the breathlessness, it also
represented the pinnacle of modern missile technology. Until this test, the
fastest thing known to man was the X43 A. A hypersonic, unmanned plane built by
NASA. It flew at 10 times the speed of sound-almost 7,200 miles per hour.
But the Topol isn't attracting attention for its speed alone. It has got more to
do with the sheer viciousness it demonstrates. A conventional intercontinental
ballistic missile (ICBM), once deployed, takes off on the back of a booster.
After attaining a certain altitude, it follows a set flight path or trajectory.
When it reaches the intended target, it lets loose a set of warheads that home
in on the target with devastating accuracy. Given these dynamics, military
establishments build defence systems that can intercept an ICBM before it
strikes. Often, the defence works.
With the Topol, these dynamics simply don't come into play. To start with, the
damn thing can be manoeuvred mid-flight. This makes it practically impossible
for any radar system in the world to figure out what trajectory it will follow.
The other thing is the kind of evasion technology built into the missile. That
makes it invulnerable to any kind of radiation and electromagnetic and physical
interference.
Then there is the question of ground-based nuclear warheads traditionally
deployed to stop ICBMs in their path. Until now, any ICBM can be taken down by
detonating a nuclear warhead from as far as 10 kilometres. The Topol doesn't
blink an eyelid until the time a nuclear warhead gets as close as 500 meters.
But given the Topol's remarkable speed and manoeuvrability, getting a warhead
that close is practically impossible.
That leaves defence establishments with only two options. Target the missile at
its most vulnerable points - either when it is on the ground or when it is just
being deployed (also known as the boost phase).
Apparently, the Russians have gotten around that problem, too. Unlike virtually
every ICBM that exists on some military base or the other, the Topol doesn't
have to be on a static base. All it needs is the back of a truck. And trucks can
be driven anywhere, anytime. That makes it practically impossible for any
country to monitor how many of these missiles have been deployed and where.
Writes Scott Ritter, a former intelligence officer and weapons inspector in the
Soviet Union and Iraq in the Christian Science Monitor:
"The Bush administration's dream of a viable NMD has been rendered fantasy by
the Russian test of the SS-27 Topol-M.. To counter the SS-27 threat, the US will
need to start from scratch."
But when you're done marvelling at the technology, sit back for a moment and
consider this. You thought the cold war was over. You thought wrong. Cold War II
has just begun. And the world just became a more dangerous place.
To recap the SS-27 'highlights'...
The Topol SS 27 can be manoeuvred mid-flight. this makes it impossible for radar
systems to figure out its flight path.
It is invulnerable to radiation and electromagnetic and physical interference.
It can be mounted on the back of a truck, which makes it difficult to monitor
how many of these missiles have been deployed and where.
HTH
Alan
http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/enigma.html
http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/
http://www.bushflash.com/pl_lo.html
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