Re: Estimating water quality


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Carsten Troelsgaard wrote:
I ask becourse my childhood luggage (my father was a gardener &
fliefisher) says that the long swaying algae (local name:SheepTails)
signifies a lower waterquality - this may not exactly be what's at the
pictures, in any case it's at odds with the fact that it's swaying in
non-poluted water welling out from cracks in the chalk (catchment area
largly woodland)

Carsten

I concur with George that you have an algal bloom. The green stuff
doesn't bother me quite as much (like he says, it can be seasonal)as the
brown. If the green is there year round in a spring, you have a nutrient
problem--such algae are common in degraded surface streams, but assuming
your groundwater is colder than mine (13C) you shouldn't be getting this
much gunk in a spring.

The spring used to produce ~120 l/sec. It's welling out of the ground a
few tens of meters from my underwater foto of the algal forest. The
temperature is ~stabil year round, a few degrees above zero. The algae
are not a bloom but an all year occurrence.
My gut feeling is that ... too much gunk.

I'm misusing the word gunk (I thought I sensed the meaning of it) - - too
much algae/too nutritious was my meaning

But my gut feeling isn't worth much. I will not rely on a vague childhood
memory of a different flora, but you may say that that's what makes me
suspicious.

Depending on the spring, recharge can be coming from tens of kilometers
away--

These distances will be needed. The second largest forest of dk covers
the catchment-area. Maybe I should try to make a calculation of how large
a catchment is involved - it's probably larger than I suspect. Within a
few kilometers atleast four springs the size of this one discharges into
the river.

or it may be as simple as a single malfunctioning septic field or cattle
lot upstream, or a pulse of fertilizer which got sent underground
through the system.

It only takes a pee to reduce a first class water to the next class. It
takes more to spoil the next. You wouldn't believe that the other side of
the valley accidentally got 1.000.000 l of gylle (dung) this week. The
'system' got working and no dead fish was registered (I don't know about
chemical measurements) - that's impressive (leaving out worries of longer
term effects).

Two points:

1) knowing some basic biology is good for rough estimating water quality
without testing, but these are only indicators that the water is not of
highest quality. A spring can be crystal clear and lethal, too. As one
local hydrogeo says, "If plants won't grow in it, would YOU drink it?"

If it's a spring and it's clear, I probably would - depending on it's
location.

Even apparently clean (clear) water can be quite hazardous. It could
contain harmful microbes, or heavy metals like arsenic.

yes, but I'm not a sort of person that catch sight of a bleading wound when
I see a spring - I need a reason to discard it or be critical

2) Doing a full spectrum water quality does take a pretty penny, but if
you do a lot of testing, you don't need health department microdecimals
on your answer, and you have a clue what you might find and what data
you suspect (why test for silica if you are looking for nitrate?) some
of the field test kits (Hach kits, Lamotte kits) are pretty cheap but
reasonably accurate. I cannot afford a full kit of research level
instrumentation, however, there are pH meters, DO meters (look in
sporting goods), conductivity meters, etc. for quite reasonable prices.
www.forestry-suppliers.com, www benmeadows.com etc.

I'll have this in mind. The springs are probably well tested, but I'm not
sure weather the figures are public. Whatever, the water has a high
quality, and there's definately no reason for alarm (on this side of the
valey) - you know .. the sentiment that that you can touch something
absolutely unspoiled and original.

Carsten

By your description above, it sounds possible that there is fecal

no way

and/or nitrate contamination in the water.

possible after over-fertilizing the soil since the time of the vikings - but
this sort of long distance travel of an easily metabolized substance does
not make sense

If this, one of the cleanest places in Jylland, is 'hit' I would hate to
look at the average, not to say the polluted streams

Couldn't the fertile forrest leak these nutrients?

http://www.sitecenter.dk/geocsite/geologicamshots/view.nhtml?profile=geologicamshots&UID=10078

The algae on this picture grow on the brink of the spring (histosol on
chalky morain) right before entering the river. The algae may have a
'poisenous' look, but the water is as pure as it comes.

I forgot that none of you have seen any of the subaerial pictures of the
landscape - it's delicate, and none of you'll hesitate to dip the face and
drink the water. I've left it out becourse the water (and small volcanoes)
are so much more pitoresque when it's alive
It's evening/night and people crowd the net - my isp/homepage is blocked and
I cannot load additional pictures right now (same thing last night), so I'll
have to wait til tomorrow.

Carsten

An inexpensive coliform bacteria test would be the way to go. Might as
well do a cheap nitrate test as well.

George



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