Re: mechanism for planetary growth



In article <8KmdnTkLetcWUHzZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "George"
<george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Charles Cagle" <s_k_y_bolt99@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The Herbig-Haro object known as HH-30 is undergoing a cyclic process of
shooting out huge blobs, each of which is estimated to be twice the size
of our solar system, like machine gun bullets. Right there in front of
the entire pseudoscientific community of putative astrophysicists and
cosmologists HH-30 is demonstrating that it is a huge matter creation
engine.

This claim is incorrect and not supported by the evidence simply because
there is no evidence that HH-30 is creating matter. The evidence is simply
that it is ejecting the matter that is piling up onto the surface of the
object from its previous created accretion disk.

Absolute nonsense. No wonder you snip the guts out of the article..
..exposes you for what a fraud you are. Of course they have announced
that Hubble has detected matter that they are assuming is an accretion
disk... but that's simple self serving crap that you can expect out of
people who are dedicated to pseudoscientific nonsence.

<snip>

But from the world of pseudophysics... er astrophysics, these gentlemen
tell us that HH-30 is a young star and that it has an accretion disk and
that somehow the matter is flowing inward from this accretion disk to the
center and then being ejected out the ends. Details of how this all
happens are quite fuzzy

Oh yes, gravity is such a fuzzy issue. NOT!

Really... you are such a laugh... The nature of gravity despite ten
thousand papers on the subject none of which are in complete agreement
with each other unless written by the same people is not a settled issue
and for you to intimate that it is or that its nature is well understood
shows you to be a liar and fraud of the first rank or else so poorly
informed as to be utterly worthless as a source of information. Take your
pick ..you're one or the other and even perhaps both.


<snip>

What is oh so cool about HH-30 and similar stellar jet systems is that
they are observed to have a proper motion across the spacial background
that is opposite to the direction of their ejecta. So, here's this
putative accretion disk that somehow manages to scoot across the sky...
pretty tricky stuff and very neat mechanism to convert the putative
rotational energy of an accretion disk that hasn't actually been detected
or proven to be such into a pulsed jet.

Umm, The accretion disk not only exists, it has been detected by the
Hubble:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2000/32/video/b

Oh yes... I've seen this link and there is no evidence of a disk at all.
A wonderful case of seeing what you want to see. There's matter around
the core of the star but it isn't an accretion disk and to say that this
is what it is really is nothing more than blatant dishonesty. What a
fairy sugarland of lies you live in. Please if you can't regurgitate
anything substantial in the future...please just don't bother. The
scientist don't understand the knots as they call them or why they emerge
with such a periodicity Nor do they understand the velocity differential
between the two 'jets'... Seems there's a lot they don't know but they
sure as hell are willing to fill in the blanks with their speculations
that suck fools into believing that they know what they are talking
about.. After all ..how embarassing to have all these pictures and not a
real clue as to what these amazing objects really are...



That the stellar jet ejects matter normal to its proper motion should come
as no surprise to anyone, since the mechanism for matter ejection is its
very strong magnetic field, which just happens to be oriented at an angle
normal to the star's proper motion. The sun, too, has a magnetic field
which, on average, is oriented nearly normal to its proper motion.

Oh yes...what a hoot.. ROFLMAO "the mechanism for matter ejection is its
very strong magnetic field"....right..without a clear model of how it is
doing it all and why - this is just out and out blather coming out of your
keyboard. Care to present the equations that can produce those cyclically
generated knots? Of course you can't because you're simply rearticulating
the specuations on these things found in any journal and no one has ever
come up with a mechanism for those jets...to say the strong magnetic field
is the source is a null content comment ... please, fella, if you can't do
better than this... please just go away because you are only showing
yourself to be a clone of other clones ...when you can come up with an
original thought instead of ad hominem comments you might be taken
seriously.

<snipped more looney rantings>

George

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