Re: mechanism for planetary growth


"Charles Cagle" <s_k_y_bolt99@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <9dadnbU5srd6kn7ZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "George"
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"Charles Cagle" <s_k_y_bolt99@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <8KmdnTkLetcWUHzZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "George"
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"Charles Cagle" <s_k_y_bolt99@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The Herbig-Haro object known as HH-30 is undergoing a cyclic
process
of
shooting out huge blobs, each of which is estimated to be twice the
size
of our solar system, like machine gun bullets. Right there in
front
of
the entire pseudoscientific community of putative astrophysicists
and
cosmologists HH-30 is demonstrating that it is a huge matter
creation
engine.

This claim is incorrect and not supported by the evidence simply
because
there is no evidence that HH-30 is creating matter. The evidence is
simply
that it is ejecting the matter that is piling up onto the surface of
the
object from its previous created accretion disk.

Absolute nonsense. No wonder you snip the guts out of the article..
.exposes you for what a fraud you are. Of course they have announced
that Hubble has detected matter that they are assuming is an accretion
disk... but that's simple self serving crap that you can expect out of
people who are dedicated to pseudoscientific nonsence.

Ad hominems. Wow, and nothing to refute the Hubble team's claims,
either.
No surprises here.

George

But, George, they aren't claims...they are speculations based upon a
model
that has never had anything substantive about it except italian verbs
(hand and arm waving).

Umm, it appears that the only one doing any arm waving here is you, Chuck.

The detection of matter in the near region of a
stellar jet system is one thing... to say that it is evidence of an
accretion disk is quite another.

Go back to the link I provided earlier, and look closely at the image of
HH-30. There is an assymetrical stellar jet emanating from the star, and a
ring of matter surrounding the central region. The Hubble team and others
have interpreted that ring as a disk of dust and debris. If you have
evidence that it isn't, then by all means, write a paper and publish it.
Simply saying that it isn't doesn't make your claim true.

Right now...there's not a mathematical
treatment of a structure that can eject matter out the ends... and to say
that it is due to a magnetic field is about as helpful as saying that a
photon is an energy packet...

Study of our sun has shown clearly that its magnetic field lines are
intimately involved in mass coronal ejections. The Hubble team has
proposed that stellar jets involve similar processes, though on a much
larger scale. Perhaps you should read up on stellar jets before you make
such silly claims. Here is a simple primer that even you should be able to
understand:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1995/24/astrofile/

And here is another discussion of HH-30:

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/2000/32/image/c

George


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