Re: never able to build a model for Convection heat theory means the theory is a fake

On 5 Oct 2006 11:24:57 -0700, "a_plutonium" <a_plutonium@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


J. Taylor wrote:


It is not an ad hominem to question reason. Have to think this is a
defensive response rather than you thinking it was an attack on you,
since find your idea intriguing.

I believe in the idea that given two competing theories of what moves
continents, and which one of them easily builds a model (the top of a
refrigerator vibrating) and the other never has a model (tanks which
try to build 6 convection cells and molasses but too sticky), that
no-one should accept Convection Heat simply because of the Logic--

If you cannot build a working Model of a proposed theory, then the
science community should never take the theory ever serious. Even a
junior-high-school kid can understand this.





So what, in your mind, does the Convection heat theory explain why
Pacific Ocean is 1/2 and the continents the other 1/2.

It does not. It does not explain the pattern on the ocean floor,
which shows a mechanism which is controlled by a unifying force,
rather than what would be expected from individual convection cells,
controlled by heat alone.


Six pots on the refrigerator top representing North and South America,
Europe and Africa, and Asia and Australia can be vibrated be the motor
below to end up in the pattern of | | | which exists today.

So, the Refrigerator Top Model can duplicate everything that is now
seen in Continental Drift. I can even duplicate seafloor spreading and
your ocean floor. I remove the solid steel top of the refrigerator and
replace with numerous strips. What happens is the vibration separates
the strips in the center and causes them to drift to the edge. The
strips do not migrate to the edge as fast as the pots, but nonetheless,
it mimics seafloor spreading.




Why is South American moving slowly yet Australia moving fast?

Heat and convection are contributing factors. They just are not the
only things in play. Both matter and energy, external to the system
are likely being added. The real question, does the pattern on the
ocean floor show a closed system, or open?

The only Model that works so far is the refrigerator top, and
apparently heat is not involved in the vibration motion. So heat and
convection have no models. This tells a rational person that since the
only model that works is Vibration due to electromagnetism of the
Asthenosphere to Lithosphere boundary, that we never consider heat and
convection for they have no role in how plate tectonics works.

If one model-- refrigerator top with vibrations explains it all with no
role for heat and convection. Then it is time to ditch this lousy and
fake theory.

It is obvious that the Asthenosphere is rather closed to the
Lithosphere except for the occasional volcanic activity that brings
magma to the surface.

Electromagnetism Vibrations at the Asthenosphere boundary is a CLOSED
system. And works better when it is closed since it makes the boundary
that much more uniformily different from the Lithosphere. So that the
Asthenosphere becomes more Iron rich and the Lithosphere more aluminum
rich and the Vibration is more effective.

The reason my refrigerator works better than the Asthenosphere is
because the plate top is solid steel and my pots are solid metal also
and the vibrations thus are more effective in moving.

If the system were open then the boundary would be continually diluted
and polluted of different chemistry whereas if it is closed it becomes
more pure in metal differential between the 2 layers and thus more
effective in electromagnetism vibration.




If closed, all the energy to drive it must have been contained within
it from the beginning.


Yes, that is what the Motor Vibration theory would confirm. Except for
the occasional interruption of volcanic magma deep within Earth, this
boundary between Asthenosphere and Lithosphere has been very much the
same since the birth of this planet. And all the electromagnetic forces
due to Earth Core as Motor and due to Lightning Bolt strikes have
concentrated their energy in the form of Vibrations at this boundary
and explains all of Continental Drift and Plate Tectonics.



(snip)

Sorry had to snip this science fiction for it makes J. Taylor look bad.




Which then causes two questions, rate and frequency.


In the Vibration theory, the continents and ocean are in cycles where
they come together as a Gondwana whole such as the Pacific Ocean and
then cycle back out into a | | | pattern. So they drift into a | | |
pattern for a billion years and then into a O pattern where they come
together as one big continent and then a billion years later into
another | | | cycle. The geological record has evidence of this cycling
pattern.



(snip)

Irrelevant at the moment.


What is the Convection heat theory model? Have they ever written about
their model?

No, but there is evidence for it, it just is not the only evidence.


Some say that MIT has a molasses tank

Some say that Cal Tech has a tank that feature convection cells as
conveyor belts.

The entire trouble with present day geophysics is that they all believe
in the Convection heat theory for only one reason-- they can get a huge
number for a source of energy. But they could never build a Model that
in any way mimics how continents actually move.

I can build a model and every household in the world that owns a
refrigerator has a model of how continents move.

Geophysicists for the past 50 years have made a laughing stock of
themselves, by violating a basic principle of science. If you cannot
build a working model of a phenomenon, then you have no theory or
explanation of that phenomenon.


You probably cannot answer a single one of them.

Did answer, just not definitively. There is vastly more taking place
than what Plate Tectonics explains.

JT

Well, no. There is a wrong explanation in the form of Convection Heat
as to what is really going on.

The Convection Heat theorists deny that Lightning bolts contribute to
the motion of continents. They deny that Earth Core produces
electricity and which translates into vibration that moves continents.

So the science of Geophysics has been wrong for over 50 years as to
plate tectonics.

Even a High School kid can understand that if the Asthenosphere is a
solid as well as the Lithosphere that motion between these two layers
takes place not by heat differential but by vibration forces.

You certainly have an imaginative way of thinking. Do not suppose it
will do any good to point out some of the more obvious flaws, like
your pots can bounce into a new location on the refrigerator's surface
because nothing else occupies the location.

JT
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