Re: Fossil forest found in So. IL coal mine
- From: Jo Schaper <jospamnotschaper34@5socket78dot9net>
- Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:40:50 -0500
George wrote:
<mircea13@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:m6it23t8naluqkm8h95m9vbbfpqa7jbt60@xxxxxxxxxxOn Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:45:35 -0400, "George" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
You're right, George. That's what I had in mind when I mentioned theThe earthquake scenario draws heavily on the sharp contact between thePlus, I think the fact that a lot of the trunks were still standing in
coal bed and the overlying shale, as well as the exceptional
preservation of the plant fossils, which both suggest an abrupt
drowning of the mire, and the lateral changes of coals and shale
thicknesses, which favor a fault control interpretation rather than
differential compaction one. The fault was neither directly observed,
nor mapped at a geologic boundary offset; the fault was necessary to
bring together all the other elements of the author's model.
their living positions also argued for a sudden drowning.
"exceptional preservation." Anyway, only now I notice the subject
header is somehow misleading. The find is in Vermilion County, on the
east side of Illinois, about 50 miles straight east from Urbana and
near the boundary with Indiana. Also, the authors mention the New
Madrid earthquakes and the Reelfoot Lake only as a recent analogue for
their drowned Pennsylvanian forest, but draw no connection between the
New Madrid fault zone and their necessary fault. About the latter,
they'd rather trace it northeastward in Indiana to the Royal Center
fault, which cuts across the Kankakee Arch.
Regards,
Mircea
It would be difficult to say which fault could have done the damage. I don't know that any known fault has been identified in the immediate region as being old enough to have caused it. Having said that, The basement rock along the Wabash is highly deformed, and so any faulting related to that deformation could be responsible. Also, I wouldn't rule out the New Madrid area, since it has a very long seismic history.
George
My error on the headline; I was running out the door this a.m. when I posted it. I suppose it would be more Midstate-- from my vantage, there are only 2 parts to Illinois: Chicago, Northern Illinois and Downstate/Southern Illinois. My bro lives in Quincy, and the imaginary cultural dividing line seems to be the MO/IA border drawn east across the state, which puts Vermilion in the southern half.
The point which George makes about the long history of the New Madrid fault(as opposed to the recent hypotheses of short-term, recent activity only) is the reason this caught my eye. (Twas front page news on the new Post-Dispatch, too.)
I don't think anyone understands midwestern faulting and its relationships to adjacent fault zones with enough certainty to rule anything in or out.
Interestingly, I went to my cave grotto meeting after the meeting at a pizza joint tonight, and a perfect stranger (not with our group) buttonholed me on the way out, showed me the newspaper, and asked what I thought about the report. When I finished with the pros and cons of the article, did a demo of Pangaea with napkins on my fist,and finished with the young man's questions (about 20 minutes) he wanted to know if he owed me several hundred dollars for the explanation. I gave him my website address instead, but that would be the life: getting buttonholed on the street to explain geology to passersby, and getting paid for it, to boot!
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