Re: evidences against subduction theory

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Jo Schaper <jospamnotschaper34@5socket78dot9net> wrote:

George wrote:
"Jo Schaper" <jospamnotschaper34@5socket78dot9net> wrote in message
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Nicolas Krebs wrote:
I have read that some people stay in the before-1970-geology, and do not
thrust the nowaday plate tectonic geology with subduction. Do they have
any strong evidence against the subduction theory ?
There is also the possibility that some of the 'before-1970-geology' is
correct. Plate tectonics doesn't answer all geological questions, nor was
it intended to. As I've noted in this group before, without a hint of
crackpottery, if you're stuck in the middle of a long term craton like
North America, there's a helluva lot of geology out there which has very
little to do with subducting margins (or not).


That is true, but having a lot of geology in the middle of the continent
that doesn't have a lot to do with subduction doesn't mean that subduction
doesn't occur elsewhere. Of course, it does. Having said that, there is
ample evidence that the middle of our continent has seen numerous rift
events, and so plate tectonics does have something to say about the geology
of the mid-continent as well.

George

I'm a great believer in the directional oscillating pendulum of science.
It tends to swing out to the extremes of everything as it moves forward,
when reality is rarely on the peak or trough of whatever is the
currently fashionable theory.

This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. "It" (science) is not a massive
object, it is a process engaged in by a lot of people. These people are
humans, not a Borg collective. Thus they have their own education,
experience, and interests. Ideas are created, discussed, ignored,
rediscovered, refined, raked over the coals, rejected, and occasionally
accepted. If you insist on some kind of mechanical analog, it's more
like a bunch of Legos being tossed about in a cement mixer than like a
pendulum.

Perhaps I'm missing something. Explain to me how your "pendulum" belief
applies to, say, the progress from Aristotelian through Newtonian and
finally to Einsteinian gravity and motion. Or, say, to the understanding
of electromagnetism, starting with those monks who would zap people by
scuffing their feet on a carpet.


I want to see the evidence: The structure which is PT has a reasonable
body of evidence, whereas EE does not. As far as my own corner of the
craton goes, I've heard and read enough contradictory evidence in
regards to the New Madrid Fault Zone, its activity or lack thereof, its
reasons for existence, its extent, its ancillary structures (or not) its
heat values or not, and read enough stuff which proports to explain
Yellowstone based on actual data, that its pretty clear to me that what
is important here are the data, and the hypotheses and their
ramifications, not necessarily the conclusions (which often are wildly
divergent, depending on author.)

The data and the theories are important. The data tell you what
happened. The theory tries to present that information in a coherent way
that explains and predicts.

The evidence shows that EE is a load of dingos' kidneys and that PT does
a damn good job of explaining and even predicting much of what goes on
on this planet. But nobody claimed that PT is complete. Indeed, the New
Madrid fault is not yet explained by PT. You're right: more evidence is
needed.

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